How did humans’ relationship with the other animals go so completely awry? The incomparable Jim Mason – author, lawyer, thinker, and animal rights OG – joins us to discuss his seminal work, An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature, for a discussion about where humanity went wrong, why it matters now more than ever, and how we can start to put it right.  

Jim Mason is an author and attorney focusing on human/animal concerns. He is the author of An Unnatural Order: The Roots of Our Destruction of Nature and co-author with Peter Singer of Animal Factories and The Ethics of What We Eat: Why Our Food Choices Matter.  He is a contributor to A Cultural History of Animals and The Oxford Handbook of Animal Studies, and his writings have appeared in Audubon, The New York Times, New Scientist, and numerous other publications.

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