We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

Ashley Cain: “I’d Trade My Life to Hold My Daughter for One Second More”


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In episode, Paul sits down with Ashley Cain, a former professional footballer and reality TV star, who bravely shares his transformative journey of grief and healing following the devastating loss of his daughter, Azaylia, to leukemia. Ashley opens up about the struggles he's faced, the lessons he’s learned, and the powerful mission he’s now embraced to raise awareness for childhood cancer and men’s mental health.


Through this heartfelt conversation, Ashley discusses the emotional challenges men often encounter and how understanding and addressing these needs can lead to personal growth. We explore the sudden end to his football career, the impact that trauma has had on his life, and how he's used his experiences to help others find strength, even in the darkest of moments.Ashley offers valuable advice on finding happiness, achieving well-being, and transforming relationships—with ourselves and others—through a process of healing.


His work with The Azaylia Foundation continues to inspire people all over the world, offering hope and support to families facing similar tragedies.


Please note: This episode covers sensitive topics like child loss and grief, which may be difficult for some listeners.


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Ashley's Book:

Strong - https://g2ul0.app.link/Ow8Hgaq5HNb


Ashley's Instagram:

https://g2ul0.app.link/SWyyCc2UGNb


Ashley's Charity - The Azaylia Foundation

https://g2ul0.app.link/YP3IHk8UGNb

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02:19 - How Are You Feeling Right Now?

03:18 - Growing Up Mixed Race: Challenges And Experiences

04:57 - How Race And Upbringing Shaped Ashley's Identity

08:01 - If You Could Change Your Past, Would You?

10:06 - How Football Transformed Ashley's Life

11:42 - Life After Football: Losing Fame And Status

13:49 - Becoming A Dad For The First Time

15:38 - When Ashley Discovered Azaylia's Illness

22:57 - Staying Positive And Advocating For Azaylia's Health

32:35 - How To Cope With Trauma

38:50 - Supporting Men Through Trauma: Advice For Partners

42:08 - The Male Mental Health Crisis: What Needs To Change

50:39 - Shopify And Tinder Ad Break

52:32 - Is Ashley Truly Happy?

54:36 - Ashley's Wellness Journey

56:31 - The 6 Dimensions Of Psychological Wellbeing Explained

01:00:10 - How To Handle Trauma In Relationships

01:02:50 - What Ashley Would Change About His Past Relationships

01:03:27 - Relationship Advice: Loving A Man Like Ashley

01:05:00 - Is Ashley Single Right Now?

01:05:55 - Is Ashley Open To Dating?

01:07:00 - Who Should Make The First Move In Dating?

01:08:00 - Chirpsing Roleplay: How To Approach Someone

01:12:10 - How Opening Up Has Affected Ashley

01:12:46 - The Most Memorable Conversation Ashley's Had

01:15:09 - Paul's Key Takeaways


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