Jason Hardrath and Ashly Winchester have notched 81 FKTs - 61 for Jason, and 20 for Ashly - in only the last two years.

"I'm not fast, but opportunistic, and will snag the women's FKT whenever possible."

"I go back to what Peter Bakwin told me: FKTs are like art - you know it when you see it, and you know it when you don't."

Their most recent FKT is the Lava Beds National Monument Traverse:

"It's the most number of caves in the country. The craft of this one was devising a route that wasn't too extreme, so someone gets stuck in a hole, while also not the easy caves, with lighting system. So you getting a good caving experience - and you're spending a mile underground."

Jason is renowned for his "Stoke Factor" ... does Ashly have trouble keeping up?

"We're training for life, because you never know what's coming next."

Ashly has her own excellent podcast: www.womxnofthewild.com

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