Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

By Tom SchimmerEducation
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Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning) episodes

  • Relentless Outrage | Matt Townsley | Leading Change in Assessment (2)

    In Don't @ Me (1:24), Tom takes aim at the relentlessly outraged and details why we are all at risk of losing all perspective, resiliency, individuality, & common-sense. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Matt Townsley (15:30) to discuss the implementation of standards-based grading at the Secondary level. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:11:40), Tom (continuing from last week's episode) uses Dr. John Kotter's research to explore the important phases necessary to transform the assessment & grading culture of a school. 

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  • 1 hr 33 min
  • Happy for Others | Peter DeWitt | Leading Change in Assessment

    In Don't @ Me (2:45), Tom examines the question of why it's so hard for us to be happy for others. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Peter DeWitt (17:38) to discuss what it means to be an instructional leader. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:19:07), Tom uses Dr. John Kotter's research to explore the important phases necessary to transform the assessment & grading culture of a school. 

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  • 1 hr 37 min
  • Defending vs Defensive | Alexa Schmid | Normative Tendencies

    In Don't @ Me (3:51), Tom outlines the challenges we face when deciding whether someone is defending themselves or being defensive. Then, Tom is joined by Alexa Schmid (16:42), Middle School Principal at the International School of Kenya, to discuss the findings of her doctoral research on Justice, Equity, and Cultural Competence in International Education. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:12:35), Tom explores the inadvertent influence our lingering normative tendencies can have on the implementation of standards-based grading practices. 

    • Follow Alexa Schmid on Twitter: @TeachSchmid
  • Alexa Schmid's Blog: Leading and Learning
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    • Grading from the Inside Out (March 16 & 23, 2021)
  • Achieve Virtual Institute (August 16-18, 2021)
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  • 1 hr 28 min
  • Introspection Illusions | Natalie Conway | Consumable Report Cards?

    In Don't @ Me (2:13), Tom highlights the psychological phenomenon of "introspection illusion" (via Dr. Emily Pronin) and talks about its impact on both our disagreements with colleagues and on student self-reflection. Then, Tom is joined by Natalie Conway (13:19) to discuss online learning and what it takes to create a truly rich experience for online learners. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:04:00), Tom explores the oft-overlooked aspect of report card reform; is the new report card consumable to parents and families?

    • Follow Natalie Conway on Twitter: @AOENatalie
  • Follow the Adventures in Online Education podcast on Twitter: @syspresents
  • SYS website: www.syseducation.org
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    • Grading from the Inside Out (March 16 & 23, 2021)
  • Achieve Virtual Institute (August 16-18, 2021)
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  • 1 hr 16 min
  • BONUS: Standardized Testing with Tom Guskey

    In this bonus episode, Tom is joined by Tom Guskey to discuss the recent decision by the Biden Administration to mandate that standardized tests proceed this spring. The conversation focuses on this acute decision and standardized tests in general.

    • Tom Guskey on Twitter: @tguskey
  • Tom Guskey's website: www.tguskey.com
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    • Grading from the Inside Out (March 16 & 23, 2021)
  • Achieve Virtual Insitute (August 16-18, 2021)
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  • 34 min
  • Defending EduSpeak | Trevor MacKenzie | Self-Reflection

    In Don't @ Me (2:05) Tom takes aim at those who (wrongly) use the terms like "EduSpeak" or "Buzzword" to refer to important, research-validated processes. Then, Tom is joined by Trevor MacKenzie (10:02) to discuss inquiry-based learning and how to bring more student agency to the classroom. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:10:03), Tom explores the 4 directions and the 2 dimensions of student self-reflection.

    • Follow Trevor MacKenzie on Twitter: @trev_mackenzie
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  • Trevor MacKenzie's website: www.trevormackenzie.com
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    • Grading from the Inside Out (March 16 & 23, 2021)
  • Achieve Virtual Institute (August 16-18, 2021)
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  • 1 hr 22 min
  • Allure of Labels | Starr Sackstein | Multiple-Choice

    In Don't @ Me (1:34) Tom shares his thoughts on why (now more than ever) people use labels to undercut the credibility of those with whom they disagree. Then, Tom is joined by Starr Sackstein (10:48) to discuss her assessment journey and her quest to go "gradeless." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:05:24), Tom explores when multiple-choice is an appropriate assessment method and how to develop a quality multiple-choice item.

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  • 1 hr 22 min
  • Experience for Nuance | Jay McTighe | Assessing Creativity

    In Don't @ Me (6:18) Tom examines the strange relationship some educators have with research and suggests that our experience be used to add the nuances of implementation. Then, Tom is joined by Jay McTighe (15:15) to discuss "Designing Authentic Performance Tasks and Projects." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:20:30), Tom explores how teachers can assess creativity without stifling creativity and how to develop criteria to assess the creative process.

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  • McTighe & Associates Consulting: www.jaymctighe.com
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  • 1 hr 33 min
  • Learning Loss Illusion | Shauna Brown | Net-Zero Grading Reform
    In Don't @ Me (2:50) Tom explains why he's done talking about the "COVID learning loss" and why rich, engaging opportunities now are all students need going forward; that "catching-up" is a manufactured narrative. Then Tom is joined by Shauna Brown (11:48) who is an Instructional Leader, Consultant, Educator, and Entrepreneur; the discussion centers on racial equity in schools and society, as well as the vision behind her brand "Teach For the Culture." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:01:31), Tom highlights why any move to sound grading practices or standard-based grading must be a net-zero change proposition; that doing more of one thing should lead to doing less of something else.
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    1 hr 11 min
  • Psychology of Conspiracy | Katie Novak | Atypical Assessments (2)
    In Don't @ Me (1:58) Tom explores the psychological motives behind why some people believe strongly in conspiracy theories and potentially how to support those who realize the theories were wrong. Then, in the interview (14:08), Tom is joined by author, speaker, and consultant Katie Novak to discuss the impact of Universal Design for Learning. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:09:36), Tom, in part 2 of his exploration of atypical assessment formats, highlights how teachers can engineer effective collaborative conversations in their classrooms; he also thinks aloud as to how story-telling can be more embedded into a culturally responsive assessment system.
    Follow Katie Novak on Twitter: @KatieNovakUDL
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    Website: www.novakeducation.com
     
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    1 hr 24 min

About Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning)

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Assess THAT with Tom & Nat is a bi-weekly podcast where co-hosts Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso unpack what it really means to deepen assessment literacy in schools. Known for their dynamic, insightful, and sometimes provocative conversations, Tom and Nat create a space where educators can rethink grading, feedback, and accountability in ways that put student learning first. Each episode blends practical strategies with big-picture thinking, helping teachers and leaders translate research into action without losing sight of the human side of education.

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