An episode with all the right ingredients!

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* In today’s episode, Matt and Angela, joined by special guest Melanie Deziel, delve into the legendary Martha Stewart and the fascinating autistic-coded traits that set her apart.

* After watching the recent Martha Stewart Netflix documentary, Melanie noticed countless traits in Martha that could suggest neurodivergence.

* We explore the ethics of speculating whether public figures are autistic and how reluctance to do so can stem from internalized ableism—implying that reacting negatively to the idea suggests autism is something undesirable.

* Being autistic is a source of pride—it's not just who we are, but a culture with its own ways of thinking, communicating, and experiencing the world. Embracing autism means recognizing its value, celebrating our strengths, and rejecting the idea that neurodivergence is something to be "fixed."

* We discuss the genetics of autism, how it is inherited, and why this gives us reason to speculate that Martha Stewart may be neurodivergent. Her father’s strong need for routine and order—an autistic trait—deeply shaped the way she navigates the world.

* The discussion shifts to the misogynistic media coverage of Martha Stewart and the criticism she faced for selling her cookware line at Kmart, which was dismissed as “low culture” in America. This connects to justice sensitivity, as she openly stated her belief that lower-income people still deserved access to quality cookware.

* From her show to her media empire and the many now-commonplace innovations she pioneered, we discuss how Martha Stewart is a media genius—and how that level of brilliance can be deeply threatening to many people.

* Other autistic hallmarks of Martha Stewart include her direct, straightforward communication style and the way she speaks with precision and a matter-of-fact tone.

* What’s fascinating about Martha Stewart is how she’s often perceived as icy or cold by outsiders, yet those who truly know her—friends and longtime employees—describe her as warm, caring, and kind. This aligns with the autistic experience, where direct communication and a focused demeanor can be misinterpreted as aloofness, while deep loyalty and genuine care shine through in trusted relationships.

* Her crafting reveals specific methods and attention to detail—like always using double-sided tape to wrap presents for that perfect, crisp finish—showcasing the kind of structured, methodical approach often associated with autism.

* People often saw her as a tyrant, but there was intention behind her methods—she was using her encyclopedic knowledge to help others refine their craft and achieve excellence. Her high standards and structured approach reflect a deep passion for mastery, a trait often linked to autism.

* She was constantly seeking ways to improve things and generously sharing her knowledge—much like penguin pebbling, where autistic people share information as a form of care and connection.

* We discuss Martha’s uncanny ability to recognize potential, which likely stems from strong pattern recognition—an ability often associated with autism that allows her to see possibilities others might overlook.

* We also dive into her insider trading case, how she was used as a scapegoat, and how the media skewed the narrative against her—further cementing her reputation as a "horrible rich lady," despite the nuanced reality of the situation.

* Her five-month stint in prison was an eye-opening experience, leading her to actively support the prison community by teaching skills, helping fellow inmates access resources, and advocating for their rights—showcasing her deep sense of justice and desire to uplift others.

* After leaving prison, Martha Stewart seemed to fully embrace her true self—allowing herself to make mistakes, show more of her personality, and lean into the authenticity that had always been there beneath her polished image.

* At this point, she formed an unexpected but beloved friendship with Snoop Dogg, marking a renaissance in her public image as people got to see the true, unmasked Martha Stewart—authentic, witty, and unapologetically herself.

* Another autistic trait of Martha Stewart is her deep appreciation for sensory experiences—she has a keen interest in different fabrics, textures, and foods, often focusing on the details that make something feel just right.

* Martha Stewart’s entire brand and media empire are built on info-dumping—sharing her vast knowledge and passion for her special interests, from cooking to crafting to home design, in a way that’s both meticulous and immersive.

* She also had a passion for building communities of unlikely yet talented individuals, bringing together experts in their craft—a form of hyper-connectivity often seen in autistic people who naturally create networks based on shared interests and skills.

* We discuss how autistic or presumed autistic people—like Taylor Swift—are often unfairly perceived and frequently targeted with hate in the media, largely due to misinterpretations of their behaviors and a deep-seated discomfort with neurodiversity.

* We explore how the media's portrayal of neurodivergent public figures often distorts their true nature, focusing on how traits like directness and emotional expression are unfairly criticized, leading to negative perceptions and widespread bias.

About Today’s Guest:

Melanie Deziel is a keynote speaker and award-winning branded content creator who is passionate about helping individuals, teams, and organizations unlock their creative potential and organize their creative efforts.She is the Co-Founder of The Creator Kitchen mastermind for creatives, and the author of both “The Content Fuel Framework: How to Generate Unlimited Story Ideas” and “Prove It: Exactly How Modern Marketers Earn Trust.”

“You’re autistic way before you get a medical diagnosis. Your parents were autistic, your grandparents were autistic, your great-grandparents were autistic. You don’t need some neurotypical with a degree to come along and pronounce you autistic. “ - Matt

“That’s always my favorite - the diagnostic domino effect. After my diagnosis, my mom is going through the paper and she’s like, ‘that’s not weird, I did that. That’s not weird, I did that.’ And I was like, have I got news for you, mama? Welcome.” - Angela

“Her whole thing, which was setting off my justice sensitivity alarms, was that people who don’t have a lot of money also deserve to live well. They also have taste. They also want their homes to be beautiful. She got a lot of flack for that decision, but she saw the gap in the marketplace. She’s like, ‘just because someone doesn’t have a lot of money, doesn’t mean they don’t like nice pots and pans or want beautiful curtains or whatever else.” - Melanie

“It’s only the people who have sort of passing interactions with her and take one offhanded comment and they’re like, ‘she’s horrible, she’s a bitch, she’s icy, she’s cold’, whatever. But the people who are around her say like, no, she’s deeply caring. She loves the people around her. She just has high expectations and is very straightforward in the way she speaks. She will say to you, ‘I appreciate this thing you’ve given me. It’s poorly constructed. Let’s fix it.’ She’s just very straightforward, and you’re like, ‘I didn’t mean to offend you. I thought we were all aware of this reality right in front of us.” - Melanie

In this episode, we take a deep dive into the world of Martha Stewart, exploring how her traits align with autistic characteristics and the media’s often skewed perception of her. From her intense need for control to the challenges she faced in a world that misunderstood her, we break down the real Martha Stewart—and the misconceptions surrounding her. Join Matt, Angela, and special guest Melanie Deziel as they discuss how her unique personality and approach to life shaped her empire, and how she became a target of unfair media scrutiny. Have you noticed these traits in Martha or other public figures? Share your thoughts with us using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media!

Show Notes:

Netflix Martha Stewart Netflix Documentary link - please find

https://www.melaniedeziel.com/minis

https://www.melaniedeziel.com/advocacy

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An episode that defies the norms.

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* Today, hosts Matt and Angela explore the intriguing and often debated world of Pathological Demand Avoidance with special guest Richard Woods.

* Pathological Demand Avoidance, also known in more affirming circles as Persistent Drive for Autonomy, describes a strong need to question and resist demands, often co-occurring with autism. This trait can manifest as an intense drive for control, leading individuals to navigate the world in ways that prioritize autonomy and flexibility over compliance.

* Most of what we know about PDA autism—and the stereotypes surrounding it—are heavily focused on children. In reality, PDA exists on a spectrum, and many adults also experience its traits, often in ways that go unrecognized or misunderstood.

* Many neurotypicals see PDA as indistinguishable from Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), when in reality, PDA is often the underlying factor in these cases, driven by a need for autonomy rather than intentional defiance.

* We explore the validity of Theory of Mind in relation to PDA and the problems with pathologizing demand avoidance.

* Our hosts and special guest discuss the misconception that PDA traits fade with age—when in reality, PDA individuals learn to accommodate themselves and establish clear boundaries as they grow into adulthood.

* We explore the overlap between PDA and ODD, and why Richard believes that PDA isn’t a form of autism, but rather a distinct profile of neurodivergence.

* Additionally, we discuss how neurotypicals often struggle to differentiate CPTSD symptoms from autism, as many have never encountered a healthy, healed autistic person.

* The discussion then shifts to how the world is not designed for autistic or disabled people in general, and how this lack of accessibility and understanding can exacerbate PDA traits, making self-advocacy and autonomy even more crucial.

* We talk about labels, how they affect our ability to get our needs met, and what Richard's "post-autistic identity" entails in the broader conversation around neurodivergence and self-definition.

* Finally, we reflect on the importance of self-advocacy, community, and embracing neurodivergence beyond medical labels, as well as the role of monotropic focus in the autistic experience.

“May your stimming activities be many, and your flow states long.”

About Richard Woods:Richard Woods is the leading Demand Avoidance Phenomena (Pathological Demand Avoidance) authority (by academic work and experience) and Author.

He is attributed as autistic, but has a "post-autistic identity" as he is no longer basing his identity on psychiatric categories.

“I tend to view PDA as literally about the management of stress. A lot of people express these features because they are distressed and or stressed by the demands being placed upon them. And often with autistic people, it seems to be more of a cognitive style. We’re to be stressed when you put us in a very chaotic, very high-demanding world.” - Richard Woods

“The modern life isn’t built for autistics. It’s so much noise, so much sound, so much that is visual and tactile. It’s not built for disabled people in general.” - Richard Woods

“That’s the thing [about autistic kids] - when we have a safe person, when we have that anchor person, it frees us to be more objective, or to object rather, because it’s safer to object. As opposed to a total stranger, you may not feel safe saying, ‘no, I don’t want to do that. But with someone you trust, you say, ‘no, there’s no way I’m going in there. You can’t make me do that.’ That’s not going to happen, because you know you’re not going to be met with that judgment and the criticism that comes along with that of a stranger.” - Matt

In this episode, we take a deep dive into the world of Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) autism, a lesser-known but important part of the spectrum. From the intense need for autonomy to the challenges of navigating a demand-heavy world, we explore what PDA really is—and what it isn’t. Join Matt and Angela as they break down common misconceptions, discuss how PDA presents in adults, and chat with expert Richard Woods about the affirming perspective of Persistent Drive for Autonomy. Have you experienced PDA traits in yourself or others? Share your thoughts with us using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media!

Show Notes:

There is substantial debate over what PDA is. Presently my view PDA is not an "autism profile"/ autism subgroup/ autism subtype, or anything of the kind. For a short 800 word overview of current debates on PDAby Richard Woods, please see below:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354386742_Pathological_demand_avoidance_PDA_Its_four_schools_of_thought

https://tinyurl.com/4wynmydz

Richard Woods ORCiD: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8292-632X

https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/resources/identifying-features-ofpathological-demand-avoidance-using-the-diagnostic-interview-forsocial-andcommunication-disorders/

https://monotropism.org/dinah/

https://dlcincluded.github.io/MQ/

Pathological Demand-Avoidance" (PDA) in Frontiers in Education, please see the call for papers below for more information:

http://fron.tiers.in/rt/40032

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An episode that dives deep!

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* Recently, SpongeBob's voice actor, Tom Kenny, confirmed that SpongeBob is explicitly an autistic character—surprising absolutely no one!

* Our hosts kick off the episode by exploring the autistic life and childhood of the show’s creator, Stephen Hillenburg, who developed SPINs (special interests) in marine life and Jacques Cousteau as early as age six.

* During Hillenburg's time at the Orange County Marine Institute, he created the character Bob the Sponge and wrote The Intertidal Zone, though he faced challenges in getting the book published.

* After that, he dove headfirst into his other SPIN—animation—working as an assistant on well-known cartoons before landing a role at a then-small channel called Nickelodeon.

* While working on the 90s Nicktoon Rocko's Modern Life, Hillenburg crossed paths with voice actor Tom Kenny. The two collaborated seamlessly, and as we know, Kenny would later become the iconic voice of SpongeBob.

* SpongeBob SquarePants debuted as Nickelodeon's first original Saturday morning cartoon on May 1, 1999, achieving massive success. It quickly surpassed Pokémon as the top Saturday morning cartoon. By 2002, the show boasted an audience of 61 million viewers, including 20 million adults aged 18 to 49.

* In 2002, Hillenburg wanted to end production of the show, but Nickelodeon saw it as far too lucrative to stop. He left after the release of The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie in 2004 but returned to work on the show from Season 9 until his passing. SpongeBob SquarePants remains a wildly successful cartoon, still airing new episodes on Nickelodeon 25 years later.

* Stephen Hillenburg was known for valuing his privacy and leading a quiet life. However, his autistic sense of justice was evident through his philanthropic efforts, particularly his work with the United Plankton Charitable Trust, which supported environmental and marine conservation initiatives.

* Tragically, in 2017, Hillenburg was diagnosed with ALS, a disease that has also been linked to autism.

* The character of SpongeBob is like a walking DSM-5 autism diagnosis checklist. He struggles with reading social cues, doesn’t realize when he’s being bothersome, and while he can be annoying at times, his genuine nature makes him endearing.

* SpongeBob also exhibits many other autistic traits, such as having meltdowns, struggling to learn to drive, taking things literally, and showcasing astute problem-solving skills.

* SpongeBob also has a special interest in his job as a fry cook, making him the happiest workaholic on television. His passion for flipping Krabby Patties and dedication to his work shine through in every episode, showcasing his deep focus and enthusiasm for what he loves.

* We then dive into the legendary career of Tom Kenny, SpongeBob’s iconic voice actor. With a prolific career in voice acting, Tom has brought characters to life in cartoons like Rocko’s Modern Life, Adventure Time, The Powerpuff Girls, Transformers, and many more. His versatility and talent have made him one of the most beloved figures in animation.

* The autistic-coded traits that Tom Kenny exhibits have had a significant influence on his portrayal of SpongeBob, a character he has explicitly stated is autistic. Kenny’s unique approach to SpongeBob’s voice, humor, and mannerisms brings a depth to the character that resonates with many in the autistic community.

* Sami, our Content Manager (who is autistic and dyspraxic), noticed clear traits of dyspraxia and motor skills difficulties in Patrick, especially in the episode where he’s training at the Krusty Krab. Patrick struggles with tasks like mopping and opening jar lids, which reflect the challenges many with dyspraxia face. What’s truly heartwarming is how SpongeBob consistently helps Patrick, never giving up on him during the training—showcasing the importance of patience, support, and friendship.

* Listen to the episode for a deep dive into how SpongeBob SquarePants portrays neurodivergent traits, and how characters like SpongeBob and Patrick provide meaningful representation and support in ways that resonate with many autistic and neurodivergent viewers!

“When we see someone autistic like SpongeBob, we just kind of know it. We kind of don’t need to talk to SpongeBob’s mom. Thanks. Got it. ” - Angela

“One of the joys of being autistic is that we vibe with other people. We have a sixth sense where we are very bottom-up data processors. We do a phenomenon that is referred to as matrixing, where we unconsciously grab a whole bunch of variables and throw them together to get a picture - which is why autistic people are so easily able to identify other autistic people, but neurotypical people have no idea what to make of us and we’re strange mysterious cryptids from the woods. So, yeah.” - Matt

In this episode, we dive deep into the world of everyone's favorite sponge, SpongeBob, and explore how his character is an unintentionally perfect portrayal of autism. From his social struggles to his unique problem-solving skills, we examine the traits that make him both endearing and relatable to the autistic community. Join Matt and Angela as they unpack how SpongeBob’s world reflects the real-life experiences of many autistic individuals, and share your thoughts with us using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media. What aspects of SpongeBob’s character do you relate to? Let us know!

Show Notes:The Intertidal Zone BOOK - http://www.nickalive.net/2024/04/the-intertidal-zone-by-spongebob.html

https://www.eonline.com/news/1405322/spongebob-squarepants-is-autistic-actor-tom-kenny-reveals

https://x.com/ToonHive/status/1815775221724405831

https://screenrant.com/spongebob-squarepants-voice-cast-tom-kenny-retire-no-explained/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Kenny

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Hillenburg

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/article-abstract/2657320

https://www.sbmania.net/forums/threads/is-spongebob-autistic.48958/

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An episode that schools you!

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* Today, our hosts tackle a complex subject: ableism and its manifestation within the world of academia.

* Our special guest, Kat Flora, joins our hosts to share her firsthand experiences with ableism in academia and how it shaped her journey.

* Matt and Kat delve into their experiences of navigating difficult interactions with neurotypicals in academia, as well as managing the challenges of burnout.

* The conversation transitions to addiction and alcoholism, exploring how autistic individuals may be more predisposed to these challenges.

* This episode addresses a critical issue: the importance of autistic individuals being present in these spaces to drive change from within, while also emphasizing the need for self-care to avoid burnout.

* Autistic individuals in academia often encounter triggering challenges, such as being required to study behaviorism, which is inherently harmful to autistic people, and feeling pressured to agree with neurotypical misconceptions about autism just to secure a passing grade.

* Matt, Angela, and Kat discuss the dehumanizing experience of being autistic in a classroom where the information taught about autism often misrepresents or contradicts their lived experiences.

* Our hosts explore strategies for overcoming academic gatekeepers and navigating barriers to create meaningful change within academia.

* We discuss the current state of disability services at universities, highlighting the gaps and areas that need improvement to better support autistic and disabled students in their academic journeys.

“In order to become a person who diagnoses autism, if you are autistic, you have to take a whole bunch of classes where you learn a whole bunch of things that are not true about yourself by people who know a lot less and not kill them or end up in jail.” - Angela

“So this is the thing. Number one, people who come into academia, people who want to do this job are taught wrong. Number two, if you are an autistic person who is doing this, you either have to eat a lot of shit and say yes, I am a malformed human, or - you argue with people, and people don’t like to be argued with.” - Matt

“In order to change a system, you have to be conforming enough for the gatekeepers to look you over and let you in. And then you can fuck shit up.” - Matt

In this episode, we dive into the pervasive issue of ableism in academia. From the challenges of navigating inaccurate teachings about autism to the dehumanizing impact of neurotypical misconceptions, we discuss the struggles autistic individuals face in these spaces. We also explore the importance of self-care, avoiding burnout, and how autistic people can create change from within academic institutions. Share your thoughts and experiences in the comments, and join the conversation using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media. What resonated with you in this discussion? Let us know!

Show Notes:https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.727542/full https://a.co/d/gfur0Rn - The Autistic Postgraduate Woman: Navigating the Neurotypical University Paperback – Sophie Pillips

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rite_of_Ascension Kat Flora on Instagram (www.Instagram.com/kat__flora)

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An episode that rolls the dice on a favorite autistic pastime!

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* In this episode, Matt and Angela dive into the world of board games—a beloved pastime within the autistic community.

* Did you know that, according to research, only 1% of neurotypicals enjoy board games, compared to 7% of autistic individuals? This fascinating statistic highlights how board games resonate as a unique and cherished hobby within the autistic community.

* Autistic individuals often gravitate toward board games because of their clear structure, logical rules, and engaging systems.

* Board games are often seen as a form of "social lubricant," providing a structured way to interact and connect with others in a comfortable and low-pressure environment.

* Moreover, board games are often recommended for fostering autism-affirming social skills, providing a structured and enjoyable way to practice communication, collaboration, and turn-taking.

* Our hosts explore the different types of board games—ranging from logic-based games like Catan and bottom-up processing-heavy games like Munchkin, to Star Wars-related and adjacent games, and beyond.

* Games help autistic individuals with the concept of turn-taking by providing clear structure. In most board games, it is easy to see when your turn begins and ends, what actions you can take, and the order in which you can do them.

* These clearly defined objectives, roles, and turns help provide stability to our brains, creating a predictable environment that can reduce anxiety and improve focus.

* We discuss the close alignment between SPINs (Special Interests) and board games, exploring how both help us achieve monotropic focus, leading to improved emotional regulation.

* In addition, we also discuss the emotional aspects of board games, focusing on how they help teach fairness and honesty through structured interactions and clear rules.

* Games provide autistic brains with the pattern recognition we crave, offering a healthy outlet that helps prevent doomscrolling or catastrophizing, and instead fosters positive focus and engagement.

* Board games can bring out the best in us autistic folks, serving as a way to connect through our SPINs and transform our tendency to catastrophize into a positive, focused experience.

* In addition, board games are sensory fun and stimtastic, offering a tactile and engaging experience that can be both soothing and stimulating for autistic individuals.

* Board games offer a structured, sensory-rich experience that fosters social skills, emotional regulation, and focus, while providing a healthy outlet for pattern recognition and creativity, all while allowing autistic individuals to connect with their SPINs and engage in stimulating, enjoyable play.

“They [board games] will be at the game night and there’s reduced social pressure. There’s a shared focus. There’s less anxiety because especially if you know the game, the goal is to play the game and then if you meet people, awesome.” - Angela

“So if you want to meet new people [through board games], it’s so much better to meet them when you are emotionally regulated and you know what the rules are. Not to say you won’t have a meltdown because meat bodies and phone calls and text messages and who knows, but you’ve got a better chance of meeting someone as your best self.” - Angela

“The intricacy of the names of the moves and the artistry of chess, that is a purely autistic creation.” - Angela

In this episode, we delve into the unique role board games play within autistic culture. From their structured rules and logical systems to their ability to foster social connection in a comfortable way, we discuss why board games hold a special place in the community. Thanks for tuning in! Share your favorite board game moments in the comments and join the conversation using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media. What resonated with you in this discussion? Let us know!

Show Notes:

Full presentation: Autism and board games, presentation by ...YouTube · Game in Lab - supporting game research4 Jun 2024

Board Gaming on the Spectrum - Liam Cross, Edge Hill ...YouTube · Game in Lab - supporting game research27 Jan 2021

https://autism.org/how-games-can-help-teach-social-skills/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/creating-connection/202012/how-games-can-help-children-the-autism-spectrum

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38967700/

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An episode that schools you.

Hello, I am a listener of your podcast and an undiagnosed autistic. My 12 year old daughter is a diagnosed autistic who has had some traumatic experiences in the educational system since they use the medical model of autism. She is very likely twice exceptional (our school has no gifted program to offer her), but she thinks that her brain is broken because so many things are hard. She probably also has social anxiety. I am writing to ask if you and Angela would consider doing a short podcast episode aimed at teens and tweens about the wonderful ways their brains work, what autistic culture is, why it is so hard to fit into mainstream culture/school, how to make it a little better now, and how it can become SO much better later, especially once you find friends who you click with. She feels pretty hopeless at the moment, and does not have any friends to rely on yet. Thank you for reading.

- Autistic Culture Listener

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* In today’s episode, Matt and Angela explore a fan-suggested topic: autism culture for teens and tweens. They discuss ways to support an autistic teen who might be facing challenges at school and struggling to fit in.

* The education system can feel like a nightmare for autistic youth, often prioritizing conformity and uniformity over individuality.

* Our hosts discuss the challenges of transitioning between subjects in school while also navigating the complexities of an unspoken social hierarchy.

* Neurotypicals often view autism as a one-dimensional disability, focusing solely on the challenges while overlooking the strengths and positive aspects that come with it. They tend to ignore the creativity, unique perspectives, and valuable contributions autistic individuals bring to the table.

* Neurotypicals often follow the lead of a dominant figure, so if middle school girls crown Julie from second period as the queen bee, she effectively dictates who’s cool or uncool, what to wear, and the entire social hierarchy—creating a challenging environment for autistic individuals to navigate.

* Young autistic children often view adults as equals and believe respect means treating everyone equally. However, someone like Julie expects to be treated as a leader or boss, not an equal—creating conflicts within the neurotypical social hierarchy.

* Autistic young boys are often given more freedom to be eccentric, while autistic girls are expected to blend in and keep the peace, conforming to societal expectations.

* As a child, you have less control over your environment—things like your school schedule or what’s packed in your lunch are often out of your hands. This lack of control can easily lead to dysregulation.

* We discuss masking in middle and high school, and how approaching it like a Jane Goodall-esque cultural research experiment—observing neurotypicals as if they were a different species—can be a helpful strategy.

* We talk about finding ways to accommodate your body while at school, even if it doesn’t look or function the same as everyone else’s.

* To all the neurodivergent and autistic kids out there: You’ve got to push through this, because adulthood gets better. Find the weirdos, your people, in school—because they’re out there, and they’ll make all the difference.

* Self-discovery is crucial as a young person, as it lays the foundation for living as a healthy, authentic autistic adult.

* We don’t change the world by being average—we change it by being ourselves. We owe it to the people who challenged the system, the weirdos of the world, to do the same.

“This is why neurotypicals can’t understand autism - because they say, ‘well, I met an autistic person once and you don’t look like them.’ No, because every autistic person is wired differently. The commonality is just that we have lightning brains that are hyper-connected. And this is the reason why there’s a very, very high overlap between autism and giftedness because of the hyper-connected brain.” - Angela

“If you’re a kid who spends your lunch period hanging out in the library talking with the school librarian, you’re a bottom-up processor. If you hang out talking to the janitor, you’re a bottom-up processor. If you go to the teacher and say, ‘Hello, I brought my stack of Pokemon cards because you mentioned that you were in to Pokemon cards in the 90’s, you’re a bottom-up processor.” - Matt

“That’s the difference between masking to be a good girl and fit in and this is how you’re going to act by practicing this, it’s going to come naturally to you. No, it’s not. But if you mask to get through the class and you’re doing it from that Jane Goodall perspective of like, this is a research project, you can preserve a little bit of your sanity.” - Angela

“I don’t understand the concept of high school reunions because the people that I want to see, I stayed in contact with the entire time. I’m not going back to say, ‘yes, I’m 45 and I knew you people when I was 17 and 18. I’ve lived literally an entire life since then. It’s like going back to the 1800’s and being reincarnated and saying, ‘yes, the butter churning sure was an excellent time, was it not?’” - Matt

“You’re going to attract the boring people. You’re going to be put in situations that compromise your integrity. You’re going to be put in situations that make you compromise your morals. The more you compromise yourself, the more dangerous the world becomes. You need to find the people who will support and love the real you. And if you have to do this under the radar, then by all means do it. But be aware that you do have the cape. You must wear it underneath the costume.” - Matt

“Just because they’re in the majority, doesn’t mean that they shape the world. You are in a better position to make the world a better place just by having existed in it. You are going to be memorable. The average people are not going to be memorable.” - Matt

In this episode, we dive into the challenges and nuances of autism culture for teens and tweens. From navigating school transitions and unspoken social hierarchies to finding ways to fit in while staying true to themselves, we discuss how to support autistic teens through these pivotal years. Thanks for tuning in! Share your thoughts in the comments and join the conversation using #AutisticCultureCatch on social media. What resonated with you in this discussion? Let us know!

Show Notes:

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An episode that really pulls at the threads!

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* In today’s episode, we’re joined by special guest Hunter Hammersen, a self-proclaimed weirdo who traded grad school for the cozy world of knitting patterns!

* Hunter realized, in true autistic style, that following others' instructions wasn’t for her. So, she began creating her own designs and writing patterns—a perfect fit for the world of knitting!

* Our special guest kicks things off by sharing how knitting beautifully combines a stim, a special interest, and a sensory experience—making it a truly delightful and engaging activity!

* Knitting offers a socially acceptable way to stim while also serving as a shared interest that can help you connect with fellow autistic knitting enthusiasts.

* The beauty of knitting lies in its wonderfully literal nature—turning yarn and two sticks into something tangible, like a sweater—while seamlessly engaging autistic bottom-up processing.

* We dive into yarn stashes and explore how it’s totally possible to form an emotional attachment to your yarn—each skein holding its own special meaning!

* As a natural-born, bottom-up processor, you’re able to notice the details that others might miss—like distinguishing a soft, high-quality yarn from a scratchy one you might find at Joann Fabrics.

* We discuss how knitting can serve as a powerful form of regulation, helping to soothe and center the mind while providing a sense of control and calm.

* Our hosts and Hunter dive into the diverse types and textures of yarn, sharing tips on how to choose the perfect one to suit your sensory needs.

* We also explore the connection between knitting and social justice, discussing how politics are deeply intertwined (no pun intended) within the craft.

* Finally, we highlight the therapeutic benefits of knitting, from its calming effects and sensory satisfaction to its role in fostering community and driving social change.

About Hunter Hammersen

Hunter Hammersen is a self-described weirdo who dropped out of grad school (ABD in the history of science and medicine) to run off and write knitting patterns. “Because somehow when I was in school I thought 'I should take up knitting, that seems soothing,' then realized I could not stand following other people's instructions and so started making up things of my own, and then started writing my own patterns when folks liked what I made. Then I turned it into a business. Because I realized I could run that business at home in my pajamas and never ever ever have to teach an 8:30am history class to a room full of undergrads who do not want to be there.”

In the fifteen years since she started doing this, she has written and published a dozen books, wrote hundreds and hundreds of patterns, and built up an audience of knitters. These days they hang out on Patreon and she teaches them about whatever new thing catches her interest. Knitting patterns yes, but lately she’s been branching out into other things too.

“I am the flavor of autistic where I have a lot of sensory issues. If my clothes are wrong, I want you to die. If I have to touch the wrong texture, the world will end. And knitting is wonderful because whatever your version of a good texture is, you can put it on your hands. And then you get to wiggle your hands around in these lovely little repetitive movements. And you can do it in public with relatively little social difficulty. ” - Hunter Hammersen

“I like these levels better than the ones in the DSM. Level one is just knitting 10 to 12 hours a week. Level two, making your own yarn. Level three, raising sheep. These are levels that I can live with.” - Angela

“Knitting is a really nice little bridge to get a tiny bit more in your body, because it’s this thing that you’re doing with your hands and you get to touch it and you get to sit there and pet it and it’s this soft, fuzzy, wonderful thing. And it helps if I am feeling particularly scattered or particularly outraged.” - Hunter Hammersen

In this episode, we delve into the unique ways knitting can benefit autistic people, exploring how it supports sensory needs, executive functioning, and self-expression. We discuss autism-friendly approaches to organizing your knitting projects, the challenges of starting and completing patterns, and how creating personalized knitting systems can foster stability and joy. Thanks for tuning in! Share your thoughts in the comments and use #AutisticCultureCatch to connect with fellow listeners on social media. What resonated with you about this discussion? Let us know!

Show Notes:

Website: https://tinynonsense.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/HunterHammersen

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/tinynonsense

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An episode that sorts it all out.

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* First, our hosts talk about executive functioning, how its inherent lack can negatively impact autistic individuals, and why implementing personalized organizational systems is essential to keeping your executive function manageable.

* Autism is a dynamic disability influenced by many variables—our perception of things, how regulated we are, how much we have on our plate, and more. The more chaos we face, the less executive functioning we tend to have.

* We discuss the autistic hell that is moving and how it can take up to a month of processing time to fully regain executive functioning afterward.

* It’s crucial to have your own organized space to avoid emotional dysregulation. When things feel chaotic, it becomes harder to manage emotions and function effectively, but a structured environment provides the stability needed to stay grounded.

* From scissor organizers to the perfect Command hook, discovering the right organizational tools is truly satisfying—but we first need to know they exist.

* We talk about the organizational and autistic heaven that is IKEA — despite the occasional stress of assembling their furniture.

* Our hosts discuss the lack of autophagy in autistic people and how it makes the use of behaviorism as the top treatment ironic, as it doesn’t benefit us in any meaningful way.

* Matt and Angela discuss autism-specific ways of organizing items (by genre, by color, by whether your mug is a Star Wars mug or a Lego mug, et cetera), and how general neurotypical organizational methods don’t always benefit or serve us.

* Anything that makes your life easier is essential to healthy autistic living—and crucial for preserving our spoons.

* When we lose or misplace things as autistic people, our brains can become dysregulated and shift into survival mode—making organizational systems essential for us to maintain stability.

* Matt and Angela also discuss solutions for long-term storage and the discomfort caused by shows like Storage Wars, which can create a sense of trauma around putting things into storage—making it feel like we’re abandoning our possessions.

* If you can optimize your organizational systems now, it will save you stress, preserve your spoons, and protect your health and energy. It's an important investment in yourself.

“Autism is a dynamic disability, and it is based on all the stuff that happens - our dysregulation, our neurological perception of things, & how much stuff we’re going through at any given time. So the more chaos we have to do, the more variables we have to account for, the less executive functioning we’re going to have.” - Matt [paraphrased from original quote by Neurodiversely Unbroken]

“Organization, when you have it, is being in tune with the universe. With bottom-up processing, I picture the entire universe as being like clockwork, right? One variable impacts another variable impacts another variable. It’s the whole butterfly effect, right?” - Matt

“We are not a people known for our tolerance for ambiguity. We do not like the limbo. The limbo drains us because again, we’re constantly calculating the variables and trying to figure stuff out and trying to solve the problem in our brain, but it doesn’t reflect our environment. No matter how much we think about it, we actually have to get the energy to do it.” - Matt

“When I stress out and I can’t find something, I lose hours and hours. I struggle with time blindness. I miss appointments all the time, things I’m very excited about. And then all of a sudden I’ll look at the clock and two hours have gone by and I missed something that I was supposed to be doing. That happens when I lose things, when I can’t find things, when I’m dysregulated.” - Angela

“If you optimize every single room and make your life better, you will get spoons back. You will have fewer arguments with partners. You will have the energy to go out with a friend. You will have fewer stomach aches. There are ways that you can make your life better that are not that expensive. And that investment will pay back so many times.” - Angela

In this episode, we discuss the importance of organization for autistic people, exploring autism-specific organizational strategies, the challenges of executive functioning, and how personalized systems can make a huge difference in maintaining stability. Thanks for listening! Share your thoughts in the comments, and use #AutisticCultureCatch to connect with other listeners on social media. What resonated with you from this discussion? Let us know!

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An Episode That Unwraps the Dark, Autistic Charm of Krampus

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* Our hosts, Matt and Angela, kick off this episode by looking back on the tumultuous year of 2024—highlighting challenges like health emergencies, unexpected relocations, and the transitions that accompanied them.

* Next, we delve into the origins of Krampus—the shadowy counterpart to Santa Claus—who intriguingly exhibits some distinctly autistic traits.

* Krampus can be seen as something of an autistic icon, as he shares a common dislike for the chaos of the holidays—such as loud noises, disruptions to routines, surprises, and sudden changes in plans—much like many autistic individuals.

* Matt and Angela take a moment to explore autistic-coded (and explicitly autistic) Halloween media, such as Dead Like Me and Trick 'r Treat, which serves as a perfect segue into their discussion about Krampus.

* Michael Dougherty's 2015 film Krampus centers around a boy from a dysfunctional family who, in a moment of frustration, wishes to be rid of them. Krampus hears his wish and descends upon the family, unleashing havoc and terror to teach them a dark and twisted lesson about the importance of holiday spirit and unity.

* We touch on other autistic holiday icons, like the Grinch, who struggles with social interactions and sensory overload, and Charlie Brown, an autistic character navigating the holidays, written by an autistic man.

* We discuss Christmas movies that aren’t technically Christmas movies but incorporate Christmas elements and themes—like Die Hard, Home Alone, and Gremlins. We also dive into the iconic Christmas film Violent Night, starring David Harbour, exploring its unique take on holiday storytelling and its blend of action, humor, and festive spirit.

* Our hosts delve into Christmas's origins as the Feast of Saturnalia in ancient Roman times and explore how ghost stories have long been a cherished part of early Christmas traditions.

* Matt and Angela dive into a discussion about Charles Dickens, why he sucks, and why The Muppet Christmas Carol stands out as the superior adaptation of the classic holiday tale.

* Winter and Christmas are, both metaphorically and literally, the darkest season. To counter this, we bring in light—stringing up festive lights, visiting Christmas displays, and celebrating brightness in the midst of the darkness. However, the dark side of Christmas absolutely deserves to be seen and acknowledged, as it provides essential balance and depth to the season's narrative.

* Finding moments of happiness during this season can be both challenging and meaningful. There’s value in embracing the season’s darker aspects: revisiting ghostly tales, enjoying eerie holiday films, and acknowledging the shadows that make the light shine brighter.

“Look, some years you need to be able to say, ‘Well, I might be home alone and depressed this Christmas, but at least I’m not being dragged off, beaten with birch sticks, and taken to hell. Even though it might feel that way sometimes.” - Angela

“Krampus tells you all kinds of stuff. You just have to have the spirit of Krampus within you.” - Matt

“That’s the thing, you know - Christmas happens during the Winter Solstice, during the longest, darkest nights of the year. When all hope seems lost, the crops are dead, and the world is incredibly cold and unforgiving. And, if you go outside, you might die. You might legit die.” - Matt

“[Fighting the darker side]… that’s a big thing for us autistics because a lot of us face these struggles - especially when it’s promoted as, you know, everybody’s having a great time, everybody is happy. No, no, we are fighting our way through the darkness. We are fighting our way through the winter.” - Matt

In this episode, we explore navigating the holiday season as an autistic person, touching on sensory-friendly strategies, embracing the darker side of Christmas traditions, and celebrating iconic autistic-coded holiday characters like Krampus and the Grinch. Thanks for listening! Share your thoughts in the comments, and use #AutisticCultureCatch to connect with other listeners on social media. What resonated with you from this discussion? Let us know!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus_(film)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krampus

Trick R Treat ​​- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick_%27r_Treat

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An episode that reshapes holiday traditions.

Here’s what’s in store for today’s episode:

* In today's episode, we explore how to have a joyful neurodivergent Christmas by prioritizing your needs and letting go of expectations.

* We discuss how autistics rely on routines, and how the holidays can disrupt them, leading to dysregulation and chaos.

* Matt and Angela dive into how Hallmark movies portray the stereotypical, picture-perfect version of Christmas—a version that often feels far removed from reality, especially for autistics. They explore how these idealized depictions can create unrealistic expectations and fail to consider the unique ways neurodivergent individuals experience the holiday season.

* We talk about how, since autism is genetic, many people in the household during the holidays might also be silently navigating sensory overload while juggling holiday pressures.

* Our hosts discuss the challenges of having family members who are autistic but don’t identify as such or seek a diagnosis, and how this lack of acknowledgment can increase masking for the openly autistic individuals around them.

* Having meltdowns around Christmas doesn’t have to feel overwhelming or unmanageable—as long as you have the right tools in place, like sensory supports or safe people to help you navigate the moment.

* We discuss the importance of advocating for accommodations and using the acceptance of those accommodations—such as turning off the TV, avoiding twinkle lights, or lowering noise levels for sensory reasons—as a baseline for deciding whether or not to attend holiday gatherings.

* We also discuss how unusual and counterintuitive it is for autistics that physical touch, like hugging and kissing relatives, is so heavily emphasized during the holidays. We also dive into how odd—and frankly creepy—it is that kids are expected to sit on a mall Santa’s lap and share their secrets.

* Having a comfort kit is essential for an autistic person during the holidays—packed with stim toys, eye masks, comfort blankets, and other items to support sensory regulation.

* We talk about Matt's Christmas Dragon tradition, which he created with his son, and the importance of crafting personalized family traditions that cater to your sensory and emotional regulation needs.

* Matt and Angela discuss the importance of setting and enforcing boundaries at holiday events, including creating a plan to leave early if overstimulation occurs or if the situation calls for it.

* We discuss the autistic tendency to be thoughtful gift-givers, as we often pay close attention to and deeply consider people's interests when selecting presents.

* Holidays can be especially challenging for autistic people because we're not always able to access our safe foods. We discuss autistic food rules around the holidays, emphasizing that you don’t have to eat the family meal if it’s unbearable for you. Sometimes, a McNugget platter might be the best food tradition to introduce in an autistic household.

* Self-care strategies during the holidays are vital for autistic people. We share some strategies that might work for you, including creating a list of holiday comfort shows and movies, using Christmas-themed comfort blankets and candles, and doing the planning work to ensure your holiday aligns with your needs and preferences.

“So, if you’re listening to this on the day it’s released, you have somehow survived Thanksgiving if you celebrate. And now there is Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, the day after Christmas, Boxing Day. There’s still all of the New Year’s expectations. And then there’s this entire week or two off school, which, if you’re a parent, you have your children at home and still have to figure out how to work. So everything is jumbled and out of order. If you’re somebody who has created a life and a schedule to minimize sensory interruptions and other jilted expectations, the holidays are here to fuck with that.” - Angela

“We are told what Christmas is, but yet there are an infinite number of variables that impact upon that. Everything from credit card debt to the thing that you’re supposed to buy, you can’t find.” - Matt

“Create a safety plan, do self-care because honestly, the gauntlet between Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year’s, and Valentine’s Day is just this long stretch of psychological horror.” - Matt

In today’s episode, we dive into navigating the holiday season as an autistic person, focusing on how to manage sensory overload, advocate for accommodations, and create a comfortable environment. Thanks for tuning in! Share your thoughts on the conversation in the comments, and use #AutisticCultureCatch to connect with fellow listeners on social media. What tips or insights from the episode will help you this holiday season?

Resources:

Jade Farrington’s Community Guide to a Happy Neurodivergent Christmas

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