In this episode, Cass is joined by Susan Pearse, a best-selling author and leadership expert who developed Australia's first mindfulness based leadership program, which is now used around the world.

Susan has spent two decades trying to find the secret to living a more fulfilling life, and through those experience, she's now written a "Spiritually Loose" manifesto as an antidote for the modern world.

 Connect with Susan: https://www.susanpearse.com/spiritually-loose

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