Show notes and more: https://www.leanblog.org/107 

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Episode #107 is something I've been looking forward to for some time now – an interview with Dan Pink, the author of some  outstanding books including Drive: The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us and Free Agent Nation: The Future of Working for Yourself, among others.

Today, we're talking about Drive and a number of issues that will be familiar and relevant, yet thought provoking to Lean thinkers and students of Dr. W. Edwards Deming, ideas such as the dysfunctions of incentives and rewards, intrinsic motivation, and finding the balance between autonomy and following “standardized work” in a modern workplace.

You can find Dan on Twitter as @DanielPink and his website is www.danpink.com, which has his blog, and more. Dan has a paperback version of Drive coming out in the spring of 2011 and, if you've read Drive, you can send him ideas and feedback via this blog post of his.

In the podcast, I reference back to:

• an earlier interview with Alfie Kohn, on education

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