Better Than Yesterday with Osher Günsberg

When was the last time you had a conversation with someone that was uncomfortable?

When you heard something they said, and you got the floods. Your heart rate spiked, your hands started to shake, you wanted to not just show them how wrong they were for saying that, but to utterly dominate them into submission?

Did you stop to think about why it was uncomfortable? Were they being out and out racist? Misogynistic? Cruel?

Were they pointing out something in you that you don’t like, and instead of realising that indeed you hold views that you yourself find awful - you projected that anger back on to them?

For example, you’re 100% against vigilante justice, and when someone asks you - but what if it was your child that was the victim, do the feelings of rage that arise inside you make you so uncomfortable that they’re even there that you get upset at the other person for suggesting you would ever carry out an extrajudicial beating?

Uncomfortable conversations are vital to have. And if you’re not very good at them, thankfully Josh Szeps is - and you can hear him having uncomfortable conversations every week on his podcast of the same name.

Josh is a broadcaster, political satirist, and television presenter, widely recognized for his engaging work on the ABC network here in Australia. With a diverse background hosting shows like Weekend Breakfast, NSW Afternoons, and The Drum, Josh brings a wealth of experience and insight to our conversation.

I get challenged every single time I speak with Josh, and I relish in the practice of being challenged on my ideas by someone who I trust and consider a great friend - because it’s good practice to not feel like I myself am being challenged, just the idea.

I take big breaths when I speak to Josh, but I love it. He’s got a brain on him and I can’t wait for you to hear this chat. Josh has an unflinching commitment to social justice, and is a powerful voice for change. He’s absolutely committed to making the world a more just and equitable place which I’m sure you’ll be inspired by, just as I am.

LINKS 

• Check out Josh's podcast Uncomfortable Conversations
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• Get tickets for our next Story Club show
• Get Osher's latest book "So What? Now What?" here
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Checking in, August 18, 2023

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Simon Griffiths is the CEO and co-founder of Who Gives a Crap. He is the engineer and economist who had an aha-moment to sell toilet paper, but it’s not your ordinary toilet paper. Its good looking, forest friendly toilet paper - and Who Gives a Crap donate 50% of their profits to help build toilets for those in need.

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Did you know that Paris is home to one of the most renowned clown schools, created by Philippe Gaulier, the Dumbledore of Clowning? Which counts the likes of Sacha Baron Cohen and Emma Thompson among its alumni? As well as one of Australia’s very own Rachael Coopes.

Rachael is an award-winning storyteller who has made her mark in various forms, be it writing, acting, or producing for international screens and stages for over two decades. Many of you may recognise her from her delightful presence on Australia's beloved "Play School."

Rachael joins me today to share her story of being in her late twenties, awarded a scholarship to study at the renowned Paris Clown school and the decision to leave behind a burgeoning acting career, a loving and talented boyfriend and an art deco apartment in Sydney, and surrendered to the possibilities of Paris. Rachael also shares her story in her book “Paris for Beginners”. Today I learn from Rachael about her life in Paris, her journey, struggles and how she finally came to understand herself both on stage and in life.

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Checking in, August 11, 2023

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Urzila Carlson is a South African born New Zealand comedian. You may know her from her Netflix show, her podcast or seen her live stand up.

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Broden Kelly is a podcaster, musician and one-third of the landmark Australian comedy outfit Aunty Donna - they’re not for everyone, and that’s OK.‌

There’s a solid broad line in the middle of our community where a joke is very obvious. And as you get out to the edges, it can get darker, stranger, weirder, more uncomfortable, and sometimes - just sometimes you can loop all the way back around again through all of that discomfort to absolute hilarity.

It’s that particular path for me which makes Aunty Donna one of the most astounding comedy exports out country has ever made. Their absolutely groundbreaking Netflix show is fucking bonkers.

If it’s not for you - that’s fine. Not everything is for everyone.

However the three core people who make up Aunty Donna are smart, delightful, loving humans who have a lot to offer outside of making sure there’s room for pud.

Broden came around to my echoey Melbourne apartment t o share the incredible journey he and Aunty Donna have been on, the absolute pinnacle moment where they changed the trajectory of their careers all by deciding the intent behind their performance, and wonderfully - we talk a lot about footy - particularly AFL.

‌Broden has a magnificent podcast, The Footy with Broden Kelly. I love it because he talks about sport in a way that has about noting to do with stats, with scandals, or with gambling - instead he talks about sport from an emotional place I’ve never heard described before.

I came late to football, both AFL and NRL - however the way Broden talks about it, it speaks to me in a way that the blossom-nosed ex-players on the telly absolutely don’t.

LINKS

• Listen to The Footy here
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• Watch full stories recorded live at Story Club on YouTube
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Kirk Docker is the Australian co-creator, executive producer and rarely seen interviewer behind the ABC Show You Can’t Ask That. He has been awarded a Walkley Award, Rose d’Or and an AACTA for his work.

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My guest is Sophie Matterson. In 2019 Sophie's desire for a different kind of life led her to set an audacious goal – to walk across the width of Australia, covering an astounding 5000 kilometres, from Shark Bay in Western Australia to Byron Bay in New South Wales.

Sophie was joined on this journey by her five camels, and together they faced life-and-death situations, braved harsh weather conditions, and overcame the challenges of solitude and going weeks without encountering another soul.

Sophie's journey was not just about conquering the physical terrain; it was also a quest for self-discovery and personal growth which she captures in her memoir “The Crossing”. Today Sophie shares with me the highs and lows, the challenges, and the moments of sheer wonder that defined her year-long odyssey.

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