In this episode, Joe De Sena interviews Michael Holt from Savage and Saint on redefining masculinity through integrity, authenticity and inner strength. They discuss growing up tough and how it shapes character, plus the importance of discipline and relaxation in achieving goals and relationships. Michael shares his daily wellness routine of meditation, breathing, nutrition and movement - practical self-care habits that unlock spiritual growth and sustainable energy. Discover an empowering blueprint for well-being, success and real relationships - without macho posturing or martyrdom. Highlights: 00:00 Intro 01:15 How can we define masculinity? 04:40 The balance of challenge and acceptance 07:51 Going too far in achieving the mission 12:08 The fear of stopping and relaxing 15:54 Six pillars of well-being 19:52 The meditative path is the warrior path