Alright, let’s do something different today.

This is a special bonus episode where you get to hear Chapter 1 of my new book, The Next Conversation.

In this first chapter, we’re setting the stage. You’ll get a feel for what’s inside the book, and if it clicks with you, you’re going to love the full audiobook. I recorded it myself, so it’s like we’re sitting down together, walking through these conversations step by step.

Take a listen, and if you're ready for more, order my new book, The Next Conversation, or listen to the full audiobook today.

Also, come meet me on my book tour! 

Audio excerpted courtesy of Penguin Random House Audio from THE NEXT CONVERSATION by Jefferson Fisher, read by Jefferson Fisher. © 2025 Jefferson Fisher, ℗ 2025 Penguin Random House, LLC. All rights reserved.

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