In this episode of Coaching Conversations, I sit down with TLC 2025 Keynote presenters Dr. Christian van Nieuwerburgh and Dr. Robert Biswas-Diener to explore the power of radical listening. We discuss how an intentional, empathetic approach to listening can strengthen both personal and coaching relationships. Christian and Robert share key strategies—such as acknowledgment, intentionality, and thoughtful interjection—that help speakers feel truly seen, valued, and heard. We also examine the importance of creating an environment that fosters deep listening. Ultimately, this conversation highlights how radical listening not only enhances communication but also builds stronger connections and contributes to a more compassionate world.

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In this episode of Coaching Conversations, Jessica Wise and I explore how instructional coaches and teachers can collaboratively engage with data to drive meaningful improvements in teaching and learning. I use the metaphor of viewing art to highlight an essential truth: data, like a painting, can be seen from multiple perspectives, and the richest insights come from exploring it together.

Throughout our conversation, we discuss why frequent data collection—beyond just standardized tests—is critical for understanding instructional effectiveness. We also examine the core elements of effective coaching: mutual respect, trust, and open, dialogical conversations that empower teachers rather than evaluate them.

Technology, when used thoughtfully, can enhance data analysis, making it easier to track progress and inform next steps. However, the key to impactful coaching lies in the way we communicate about data—providing specific, non-attributive feedback that sparks reflection and growth.

We wrap up the episode with practical strategies for fostering a coaching culture where data becomes a tool for learning rather than judgment—helping educators feel supported, challenged, and inspired to keep growing.

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In this episode of Coaching Conversations, I have the privilege of speaking with Dr. Pasi Sahlberg, one of the most respected voices in educational policy and reform. Our conversation explores the evolution of Finland’s education system and the powerful lessons it holds for educators everywhere.

Dr. Sahlberg shares how Finland built an equitable education system by prioritizing trust, teacher professionalism, and autonomy. Instead of relying on high-stakes accountability, Finnish schools focus on creating calm, supportive environments where teachers can truly engage students in deep learning. We also discuss the challenges of standardized testing, the importance of student agency, and why effective teaching isn’t about theatrics—it’s about meaningful, lasting connections.

Throughout our discussion, one theme remains clear: great education is built on strong relationships. When teachers feel trusted and students feel valued, real learning happens. I hope this conversation sparks new insights for you and encourages all of us to think more deeply about how we create schools where both students and educators thrive.

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In this episode of Coaching Conversations, I sit down with two incredible educational leaders, Art Costa and Bob Garmston. Our discussion delves into the deep connections between cognition, emotion, and action in learning—something I’ve always believed is essential for meaningful growth.

Art shares his insights on fostering resilience in students, while Bob emphasizes the importance of agency and collective efficacy in shaping strong learning communities. 

This episode is especially meaningful as we celebrate Art and Bob as recipients of the Don Deshler Leadership Award, recognizing their incredible contributions to education. At its core, our conversation reinforces the urgent need for holistic student development and learning spaces where everyone—students, teachers, and leaders—can thrive.

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In this episode of the “Coaching Conversations” podcast, Jessica Weiss and I delve into the complexities of coaching dialogues. We emphasize the importance of choosing the right type of conversation to promote learning and growth. Together, we unpack the differences between directive, facilitative, and dialogical approaches, highlighting the necessity for clarity and intentionality in our communication.

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In this episode of Coaching Conversations, I had the pleasure of engaging with Jeff Wetzler, author of "Ask: Tap into the Hidden Wisdom of People Around You for Unexpected Breakthroughs in Leadership and Life,” and co-founder of Transcend. We delved into the critical roles of curiosity, psychological safety, and high-quality questions in leadership and education. Jeff introduced his ASK approach, which emphasizes fostering curiosity, creating safe environments, and posing insightful questions to unlock hidden wisdom. 

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In this episode of "Coaching Conversations," I had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Nancy Dome, who brought to light the critical role of compassionate dialogue when tackling sensitive issues like race. Dr. Dome underscored the necessity of self-awareness and emotional regulation to navigate these challenging conversations effectively. She introduced the REAR protocol—Recognize, Engage, Acknowledge, and Repair—as a powerful framework to foster understanding and connection. Throughout our discussion, we emphasized the importance of grace, empathy, and open dialogue in bridging societal divides.

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In this episode of the “Coaching Conversations” podcast, I had the pleasure of discussing my doctoral research and the development of the seven partnership principles with Jessica Weiss. We emphasized the importance of creating supportive environments for educators through effective coaching practices. Key themes we explored included the significance of choice, voice, and dialogue in fostering professional growth. I shared personal anecdotes and insights, highlighting the need for reflection and continuous improvement in coaching. We concluded the episode with a call to action for educators to lead meaningful coaching conversations.

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