In this episode, Shintaro sits down with Chris Round for the second time to discuss his coaching strategies and pedagogy. They discuss Chris's nonprofit initiatives, and the growth of his judo club, High Noon Judo, based in Alexandria, Virginia. The conversation also dives into the pedagogical approaches in judo training, particularly the ecological approach, and how Chris analyzes data to improve his students' performance. Chris also shares insights from his dual black belt journey in judo and Brazilian jiu-jitsu, his experiences attending various training camps, and his thoughts on the current state of judo in the United States.

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