Off the Fence with Karen Covy: Mastering Decision Making, Divorce & More

Coffee, Courage & Codependency: How to Choose Yourself


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"You don’t get a badge of courage for doing what everyone else thinks you should be doing."

When the life you built starts to unravel, how do you find the strength to start again—especially when you're still standing in the middle of it? In this powerful podcast episode, Natalie Fairchild shares the deeply personal story behind building her business, Pacific Perks Coffee, while simultaneously raising kids and navigating her husband’s progressive chronic illness.

Natalie courageously opens up about the emotional toll of being her husband’s caregiver, the quiet unraveling of their emotional intimacy, and the internal war that raged inside of her between loyalty and self-preservation. 

Natalie’s decision to ultimately end her marriage wasn’t simple—and certainly wasn’t celebrated—but it was necessary - especially once she realized the level of codependency in her marriage. Her reflections on how she dealt with judgment, grief, and the loss of identity in the process are brutally honest and deeply relatable.

What makes Natalie’s story so compelling is what came after: the messy, nonlinear path to clarity, and the inspiring new life that not only she – but her now ex-husband – have built for themselves. 

If you or someone you know is struggling to make a hard decision to do what you know in your heart is right but what “society” tells you is selfish, this is a podcast episode you’re not going to want to miss.

About Natalie

Natalie Fairchild is Founder and Chief Inspirational Officer of Pacific Perks Coffee. She grew up  in the Pacific Northwest. For the past 17 plus years she has been leading her company and recently Pacific Perks became a franchise. She contributes her success to surrounding herself with the right people, doing what she says she is going to do and being committed to a balanced life. She is most proud of the team and culture she has built at Pacific Perks, by creating jobs with flexibility and great pay for her employees.

Connect with Natalie

You can connect with Natalie on LinkedIn at Natalie Fairchild and on Facebook at Pacific Perks.  You can follow Natalie on YouTube at Pacific Perks Coffee and on Instagram at Pacific Perks.  To find out more about Pacific Perks Coffee visit the website Pacific Perks Coffee. 

Coming Soon:  Stay tuned for a new podcast – ToGet(HER)


Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.


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