Off the Fence with Karen Covy: Mastering Decision Making, Divorce & More

What if there was a simple way that you could save time and money in your divorce while also securing your post-divorce financial future too? By creating a divorce financial plan you can do exactly that.

Amy Colton, a wealth advisor, mediator, and the founder of Your Divorce Made Simple LLC, shares her unique approach to divorce financial planning that helps divorcing couples streamline the divorce process without compromising their financial future. Amy guides her clients to make sound financial decisions by creating and using a comprehensive “divorce financial plan.”

Amy has combined her extensive financial expertise with solid mediation skills and a passion for helping those going through divorce.  She now helps couples create amicable, cost-effective divorce resolutions that ALSO protect their financial nest egg for the future.

In this podcast episode, we cover a range of financial topics including grey divorce, social security, and understanding the tax implications of a divorce financial settlement.

If you are nervous about your financial future post-divorce, tune in to this episode to discover what you need to know to create financial security for yourself starting now.

About Amy
Amy is a Wealth Advisor with Forefront Wealth Advisors and has devoted her practice to educating and supporting women, especially ones that have gone through major life transitions. She is also the founder Your Divorce Made Simple LLC, where she combines the role of Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®) and Family Law Mediator helping couples and individuals achieve win-win outcomes during the divorce process.

Connect with Amy
You can connect with Amy on LinkedIn at Amy Colton and on Facebook at Amy Colton and follow Amy on Instagram at Amy Colton.  To find out more about how to protect your assets in a divorce and how to work with Amy, visit her website at Your Divorce Made Simple.

Watch for Amy’s new book coming soon. The Kitchen Table Divorce Book.

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

What do you do when you’re leaning towards getting a divorce and your spouse wants to work on your marriage? That’s the question we dive into today in this discussion with Dr. Ginny Wright, a seasoned clinical psychologist who is certified in discernment therapy (a/k/a discernment counseling.)

Dr. Wright works with couples who are on the brink of divorce to cut through the fog of indecision and come to a decision about their marriage with clarity and confidence. She uses a process developed by Bill Doherty called discernment counseling or discernment therapy. It is a specialized, short-term form of therapy that’s specially made for couples on the brink of divorce. 

Traditional marriage counseling presumes a couple wants to save their marriage. Divorce lawyers assume that a couple (or at least one spouse!) wants a divorce. Discernment therapy bridges the gap between those two choices and helps a couple reach clarity about what they each really want so that they can take the path that's most appropriate for them.

If you’re leaning toward divorce while your spouse wants to save your marriage (or vice versa) this podcast episode will provide you with a valuable tool for working through your ambivalence and coming to a decision about your marriage that you feel good about.

To discover more, tune in to this podcast episode and check out this article on discernment counseling.

About Dr. Ginny
Dr. Ginny Wright is a clinical psychologist and certified discernment counselor. She has been in private practice for over 30 years, seeing children, adults, couples and families. Much of her current work is focused on providing discernment counseling services to couples on the brink of divorce, as well as trainings, workshops and professional consultation services to other discernment professionals.

Connect with Dr. Ginny
You can connect with Dr. Ginny on LinkedIn at Ginny Wright Lapporte and on Facebook at LWA Discernment Counseling.  To learn more about Discernment Counseling and how to work with Dr. Ginny visit LWA Discernment Counseling.

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

What happens when a marriage is no longer working, but the couple wants to stay together for the kids? Is there a way that they can continue to co-parent together, pursue romantic relationships outside of their marriage, but also avoid getting a divorce until their kids are grown?

According to therapist and author Susan Pease Gadoua the answer is “Yes.”

Through her work with couples, Susan developed the revolutionary concept of a "parenting marriage" - a compassionate alternative that allows parents to prioritize their children's well-being while redefining their relationship. This innovative type of relationship enables couples to live separately under one roof and maintain their family’s stability while also pursuing their own individual happiness.

While a parenting marriage is not appropriate for every couple, it provides a workable alternative to the traditional "stay together or divorce" dilemma. A parenting marriage can also provide a "soft landing" into divorce or a long-term solution for couples committed to raising their children together. 

This podcast episode challenges the conventional notions of marriage and family. Susan’s insights invite us to reconsider what family can look like in the modern world, and how we can truly put children's needs at the forefront of relationship decisions.

About Susan
Susan Pease Gadoua is a therapist in the SF Bay Area and the founder of the Parenting Marriage concept. She works with couples "on the brink" and runs several women's divorce support groups. 

As a child of divorced parents, Susan knows first-hand how disruptive an unhappy marriage and subsequent marital dissolution can be.  Susan's personal experience, combined with years of working with couples in distress – both in striving to save their marriage or transition out of it – led her to become passionate about offering support to people at perhaps one of the most crucial junctures in their lives. 

Susan founded The Changing Marriage Institute and coined the term, “Parenting Marriage” which is now a concept that is known throughout the world.

Connect with Susan
You can connect with Susan on LinkedIn at Susan Pease Gadoua and on Facebook at Parenting Marriage and follow Susan on Instagram at Changing Marriage.  For more information about Susan’s work visit Parenting Marriage.  The best way to get in touch with Susan is through email at [email protected].

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

Imagine discovering that your life's work could vanish overnight. John Rodriguez, co-founder of Hill Country Business Strategies, reveals just how fragile many small businesses are, especially when their owners go through a divorce. With his unique background as both an entrepreneur and advisor, John provides invaluable insights into what happens to businesses in a divorce.

In this podcast episode, we talk about implementing buy-sell agreements, valuing a business, and creating long-term exit strategies. For couples who co-own a business together, John offers valuable advice on how to handle a divorce without tanking the business.

If you or your spouse owns a business (either individually or together) and you’re contemplating going through a divorce, today’s episode needs to be on your “must listen to asap” list!

About John
John has spent his whole life around privately held businesses. From growing up in the restaurant started by his immigrant Father, to becoming it’s second-generation owner to coaching hundreds of founders into becoming more effective business owners. Equal parts entrepreneur and advisor, John is just as comfortable talking business with owners as he is talking planning with their advisors.

Connect with John
You can connect with John on LinkedIn at John Rodriguez and follow John on YouTube at Hill Country Business Strategies.  To find out how to work with John and the services offered please visit his website at Hill Country Business Strategies.   You can email John at [email protected].

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

In today’s podcast conversation, Karis Nafte, a certified dog behavior consultant and family mediator, delves into the sensitive issue of pet custody during a breakup or divorce. With over 25 years of experience and her deep understanding of dog behavior, Karis has a unique perspective on what’s really best for your dog when you divorce.

Karis explores the challenges of shared custody for pets, the differences in how various dog breeds might handle such arrangements, and the heartbreaking reality that sometimes, the best decision for the dog may require one person to let go. 

Whether you're going through a divorce or you’re simply interested in how to make the best choices for your pet in challenging circumstances, this conversation is filled with insights that will make you think deeply about what it truly means to act in a pet's best interest.

About Karis
Karis is the founder and owner of Who Keeps the Dog, Pet Custody Mediation. A Certified Dog Behaviour Consultant & Accredited Family Mediator, she brings 25 years professional experience as a dog behaviour expert into the world of dogs and divorce. A global pioneer in her work, Karis has developed, and teaches, the first accredited pet care education course for divorce professionals to learn best practice for a dog’s best interest.

Karis provides online mediation services to pet owners for custody negotiations that are fair and respectful for both people and ensure the pet's well-being is prioritized.

Connect with Karis
You can connect with Karis on LinkedIn at Karis Nafte, on Facebook at Karis Nafte Pet Custody Specialist, and follow Karis on Instagram at Who Keeps the Dog.  To find out how to work with Karis visit her website at Who Keeps The Dog where you can also sign up for a free consultation.

Book Release
Karis has just released her new book: Who Keeps the Dog, Navigating Pet Custody During Divorce.

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

Ever wondered how to truly support your children through the emotional whirlwind of divorce? Family law attorney and children’s book author, Misty Hardison from the Rosen Law Firm in North Carolina, knows. 

As a family law attorney, Misty has seen how children often struggle to express their feelings and concerns during their parents’ divorce, particularly when they feel caught in the middle between their parents.

Misty’s experiences prompted her to write “Jake's Fridays" a children's book which aims to facilitate discussions between parents and children about the changes that come with divorce. The book addresses common worries kids may experience in divorce but struggle to express.

In this podcast episode we also discuss how high-conflict cases affect kids. We talk about how important it is for parents to keep their child’s perspective in mind as they go through the divorce process since children have no voice in that process themselves. We also talk about parenting coordinators and the role they can play in keeping the peace between warring parents. 

If you’re a parent going through a divorce, the insights Misty shares in this episode can give you valuable insight into the way that you can minimize the impact your divorce may have on your children, and how you can truly put your children first.

About Misty
Misty went from practicing law in a small town in North Carolina to NC’s biggest city of Charlotte, and then all the way to New York City. But now, she’s back in North Carolina at Rosen practicing family law, which is where her heart truly is.

Misty’s main claim to fame is as a children’s book author. She has a third book coming out soon and has written two other books: Why Did You Leave Us, We Loved You So?  and Jake’s Fridays.

Misty loves the Tarheels and Mexican food, her favorite place on earth is Atlantic Beach, but nothing captures her heart like her two sons.

Connect with Misty
You can connect with Misty on LinkedIn at Rosen Law Firm, on Facebook at Rosen Law and follow Misty on Instagram at Rosen Law Firm. To find out more about Misty’s work visit her website at Rosen.com.  

For help with facilitating discussions between parents and children about the changes that come with divorce, consider Misty’s book, Jake’s Friday 

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

What if getting divorced didn't have to be a painful, expensive, and drawn-out battle? According to Cary Jacobson, founder and CEO of Jacobson Family Law, it doesn’t have to be.

Cary's firm takes a radically different approach to divorce than most divorce lawyers. They only handle non-litigated cases, focusing on mediation and Collaborative Divorce to keep the drama and costs down. They also offer flat-fee packages instead of billing by the hour - giving their clients peace of mind and control over their divorce costs.

Cary reveals how establishing clear expectations and utilizing advanced technology helps her firm streamline case management, reduce overhead, and improve efficiency. That, in turn, allows Cary's team to be more responsive to their clients while maintaining a better work-life balance for themselves. 

Cary's methods challenge long-held assumptions about divorce and offer hope for more amicable separations.

In this conversation, you’ll also get a sneak peek into Keri's upcoming book, "Divorce Decoded: A Manifesto for Women," designed to guide women through each stage of divorce with a focus on the advantages of mediation.

About Cary
Cary Jacobson, Esquire is the founder and CEO of Jacobson Family Law. Cary has been practicing law for over a decade, having successfully represented clients in all facets of family law proceedings in Maryland.

Through her experience litigating family law matters, Cary has found that the conflict associated with litigation often tears a family apart making it toxic for children and their parents. However, as a certified mediator and collaborative divorce attorney, Cary has also seen how these forms of alternative dispute resolution can lead to and foster successful co-parenting arrangements. 

Connect with Cary
You can connect with Cary on LinkedIn at Cary C Jacobson and on Facebook at Jacobson Family Law.  You can follow Cary on Instagram at Jacobson Family Law and YouTube at Jacobson Family Law. To find more about Cary’s work visit her website at Jacobson Family Law. 

Preorder Cary's new book:  Divorce Decoded: A Manifesto for Women Navigating Divorce and Beyond.

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

Ever wonder how societal norms and deep-seated beliefs shape your relationships and self-worth? 

In this episode, Junie Moon, CEO of Midlife Love Out Loud, shares her transformational journey from a life consumed by fear and low self-esteem to one of self-love and empowerment. Junie reveals the life-changing impact that Shadow Work had for her and how she now uses Shadow Work as a tool to help others change their lives as well.

We also dive deeply into the complexities of relationship dynamics, focusing on the crucial role that boundaries and effective communication have in creating relationships that last. We also talk about how societal pressures can inhibit our ability to express our true desires, often leading to emotional turmoil and relationship breakdowns. 

Whether you're stuck in a bad relationship or just want to improve your self-confidence, this episode will provide you with practical steps to break free from old patterns and build a life on your own terms.

About Junie
Junie Moon, CEO of Midlife Love Out Loud, a Global Love Mentor, Best-selling Author, Women's Empowerment Leader, and Certified Shadow Work® Coach, has supported thousands of women over the past 30 years to claim what is their birthright: the freedom to be and love themselves without apology. 

When women experience this freedom to love themselves without apology, they attract life-long Next Level Love and experience an extraordinary second half of life. Junie is dedicated to guiding women in midlife on a transformative journey towards self-discovery and empowerment. 

Connect with Junie
You can connect with Junie on LinkedIn at Love Coach Junie Moon and on Facebook at Mid Life Love Out Loud.  You can follow Junie on X at Coach Junie Moon, on Instagram at Mid Life Love Out Loud and on her YouTube Channel at Mid Life Love Out Loud.  To find out more about Junie’s work visit her website at Mid Life Love Out Loud.

Bonus:  Find out your level of Relationship Readiness - Discover your Love Superpower - Experience long-lasting healthy love sooner! Take the 2-Minute Quiz  What is your Love Avatar?  

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

Imagine unlocking the power of your soul to revolutionize your business and relationships. That's exactly what Jennifer Urezzio, an intuitive business strategist and creator of Soul Language, helps people do. 

With nearly 20 years of experience in personal development and spiritual growth, Jennifer enables individuals to bypass years of talk therapy and address deep-seated issues quickly by tapping into their core soul energies. Her innovative approach has earned her the reputation of being "liquid nitrogen for the soul" and has skyrocketed her podcast “Asked and Answered by the Soul" into the top 3% of podcasts worldwide.

Jennifer's work focuses on identifying the core energies of a person’s soul. She then helps her clients apply that knowledge to both their business and personal relationships. Her process helps individuals break free from old patterns and programming that may be holding them back. 

In this podcast episode, you will gain valuable tools for navigating life's challenges, from divorce to daily stress. He will also discover how to tap into your soul's wisdom to create a more fulfilling, successful life.

About Jennifer
Jennifer is an Intuitive Business Strategist  with close to 20 years in the personal development and spiritual growth field. As a gifted intuitive and healer, she has devoted her life to helping others discover their unique essential nature and embrace their true essence, and create strategies for success.   

Through her innovative framework, she empowers individuals and organizations to facilitate direct connections with their soul's essence, transforming personal growth and business strategies. Jennifer also leads a vibrant community of Soul Language facilitators, extending these impactful practices worldwide. 

Connect with Jennifer
You can connect with Jennifer on LinkedIn at Jennifer Urezzio and on Facebook at Jennifer Urezzio or Soul Language.  You can follow Jennifer on X at SoulLanguage, on Instagram at Soul Language Founder, on her YouTube Channel at Jennifer Urezzio and listen to her podcast at Asked and Answered by Soul.  To find out more about Jennifer’s work visit her website at Soul Language and to Book a Discovery Session. The best was to contact Jennifer is through her email at [email protected].

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.

How do you protect your family's wealth and legacy while juggling the responsibilities of the "sandwich generation"? In this episode, high-powered estate planning attorney Candace Dellacona shares her extensive expertise in estate planning, asset protection, elder law, and special needs advocacy to help answer some of the most pressing questions about managing the emotional and financial pressures that come with being “stuck in the middle.”

Candace explains how proper estate planning can be used to safeguard your assets and protect your wealth. From advanced directives to trusts, we discuss the various instruments clients can use to ensure financial security and proper asset management. We talk candidly about the role trustees play in protecting athletes, high-income earners, and beneficiaries from poor financial decisions, particularly as they age.

We also discuss how couples with significant wealth can create a "legacy marriage" to ensure their financial stability and have wealth to pass on to their family once they’re gone.

Whether you're planning for your future, trying to restructure your marriage, or helping an aging loved one maintain financial security, this conversation is packed with actionable advice that can help you navigate these tough decisions with confidence.

About Candace
Candace Dellacona is a Principal and Shareholder at Offit and Kurman Law Office where she works in the firm’s Estates and Trusts practice group. Candace is considered “a family’s lawyer,” however you may define family. 

She works closely with multiple generations of family members to protect what they have throughout every phase of their lives. Candace constructs wills, trusts and medical directives that address each client’s unique goals, whether they are starting adult life or experiencing a significant event such as a change in marital status, welcoming a child, diagnosis of illness or death of a loved one.

Candace focuses her law practice on Estate Planning, Asset Protection Planning, Elder Law, Estate Administration, Special Needs Planning and Advocacy.

Connect with Candace
You can connect with Candace on LinkedIn at Candace Dellacona and Facebook at The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide.  Listen to The Sandwich Generation Survival Guide Podcast and learn more about Offit Kurman, Attorneys at Law.  You can also email Candace at [email protected].

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach and Consultant, Lawyer, Author, and Speaker who is dedicated to helping people make the best decisions possible for themselves, their families, and their future - especially in stressful times. You can check out Karen's videos on YouTube.

You can connect with Karen on LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and on her own website at karencovy.com.