Today’s guest has been on our bucket list for a few years now. Even with that in mind, the conversation still exceeded our expectations! It’s raw and open and we go to some of the darker parts of what shaped the person that Abby became.

Abby Wambach is a soccer icon, speaker, Podcaster, New York Times Best Selling author and activist. Abby is one of the most dominant sportswomen in the history of women’s soccer and she is a two-time Olympic Gold Medalist & FIFA World Cup Champion. After winning the Women’s World Cup in 2015, Abby retired and has gone on to be one of the most prominent voices fighting for equality and inclusion. 

Abby has recently released her latest book that she co-authored with her wife Glennon Doyle & Amanda Doyle “we can do hard things”. The book is broken into 20 of life’s biggest questions like ‘why am I like this?’, ‘how do I figure out what I want?’ ‘why can’t I be happy?’ and ‘How do I forgive?’ So, today we wanted to speak with Abby about the hard things she has faced in life and what those challenges taught her about herself and the world.

First up, Abby shares the moment that she truly hit rock bottom that exposed a big secret she was struggling with to the world. We also chat:

• The reason so many athletes struggle with alcohol/drug issues
• The search for identity when you go through big life changes
• Validation and how to cope when the source of validation is removed
• Overriding self esteem coming from ‘the grind’ and pushing through suffering
• The interesting way Abby reacted when one of their kids came out as gay and how it reshaped some of her own experiences of coming out
• Creating friendship with parents
• What your shadow side is
• Grief and a better response to ‘there are no words’
• Dealing with grief when you’re non religious
• Abby’s advice - don’t use your partner’s weaknesses against them
• The ‘who cares more’ rule

You can find more from Abby on her instagram 

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