Welcome to episode 340 of the Löw Tide Böyz - A Swimrun Podcast!

We are two months out from the 20th edition of ÖTILLÖ, the Swimrun World Championship, and this month's Countdown to ÖTILLÖ check-in is all about communication. Before we get into it we run through how the body and mind are holding up, including our tune up races at Folsom Swimrun and the tenth anniversary of Ötillö Casco Bay, and we share some news about a stop we're making at Precision Fuel and Hydration headquarters in the UK on our way to Sweden.

We welcome back Dr. Yael Schonbrun, a clinical psychologist and assistant professor at Brown University and cohost of Psychologists Off the Clock. Yael was last on the show in 2023 and she's back to talk about her new book, Why Don't You Understand Me?, which digs into why we so often think we understand each other better than we actually do, and it turns out we make an appearance in it.

We talk through the overconfidence glitch that makes us assume we understand people, the difference between perspective taking and perspective getting, and we come clean about the confirmation bias that got us disqualified at Bellingham Swimrun this year. Yael gives real advice for setting communication ground rules with a swimrun partner, working through mismatched goals, and why validating each other before trying to solve a problem changes the whole conversation.

We also get into values goals versus outcome goals, positive regard, and how the same tools that keep us on course in a race can help with the harder conversations off it, including the ones we'd rather avoid at the Thanksgiving table.

This episode is brought to you by Precision Fuel and Hydration, who we have been working with since 2020. If you have questions about fueling or hydration, check out their site for free education content or book a call with one of their coaches.

Enjoy!

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