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What if the secret to your next level of fame is being willing to look stupid first?
In this episode, Whitney Uland sits down with Songwriter and HTBF favorite Sebastian Cail to talk about the messy, magical process of showing up before you’re ready — and why embracing imperfection is the ultimate path to creative freedom.
Together, they unpack what it really means to activate your Celebrity Energy, take up space online, and navigate the fear that comes with being seen.
Inside this episode:
Why being bad at something new is the key to mastery
How to stop hiding behind perfectionism and start posting anyway
The truth about “starting over” in your creative career
The energetic difference between hustling and magnetism
How to reframe rejection, comparison, and visibility fear
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By Whitney Uland4.8
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What if the secret to your next level of fame is being willing to look stupid first?
In this episode, Whitney Uland sits down with Songwriter and HTBF favorite Sebastian Cail to talk about the messy, magical process of showing up before you’re ready — and why embracing imperfection is the ultimate path to creative freedom.
Together, they unpack what it really means to activate your Celebrity Energy, take up space online, and navigate the fear that comes with being seen.
Inside this episode:
Why being bad at something new is the key to mastery
How to stop hiding behind perfectionism and start posting anyway
The truth about “starting over” in your creative career
The energetic difference between hustling and magnetism
How to reframe rejection, comparison, and visibility fear
✨ BLACK FRIDAY + HOLIDAY DEALS:
Connect with us:
✨ If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and share it with a fellow future celeb!
Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.
For ad inquiries please email: [email protected]
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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