What if the secret to your next level of fame is being willing to look stupid first?

In this episode, Whitney Uland sits down with Songwriter and HTBF favorite Sebastian Cail to talk about the messy, magical process of showing up before you’re ready — and why embracing imperfection is the ultimate path to creative freedom.

Together, they unpack what it really means to activate your Celebrity Energy, take up space online, and navigate the fear that comes with being seen.

Inside this episode:

Why being bad at something new is the key to mastery

How to stop hiding behind perfectionism and start posting anyway

The truth about “starting over” in your creative career

The energetic difference between hustling and magnetism

How to reframe rejection, comparison, and visibility fear

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