There’s a new friendship theory in town: Sun Girls, Shade Girls, and the sacred art of the Couch Friend. Lise spirals over the price of a quick takeaway, and Sarah hears a woman screaming in her yard (it’s... not). Author Sally Hepworth drops by with a book-tour confession she probably shouldn’t have said out loud, but then again, We Listen, and We Don't Judge. 

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