You hear the word "boundaries" all the time in recovery. They're obviously an important piece of staying emotionally and mentally healthy. But what does the word "boundaries" actually mean? How do you set a boundary?

In this episode of Through the Glass Recovery Podcast, we have invited certified recovery coaches Jamie and Nele, and Jessica, author of Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, to join us in a conversation about what boundaries have actually looked like in our lives. You'll hear real life examples and experiences that you can easily apply to your own life - and give you the courage and strength to set boundaries of your own.

If you're a people pleaser, and put others' needs before your own in order to keep the peace - this episode is for you.

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Originally from the Bay Area, Jessica lives in Northern California with her husband and 3 young daughters. Jessica has a background teaching special education but she left the field to pursue her passion for writing and to raise her girls. She is a vocal advocate for addiction recovery with over 11 years of sobriety. 

Her debut literary book club fiction novel “Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea,” won the Maurice Prize for fiction from her alma matter UC Davis. It is a devastating and poignant novel that meditates on the often-unspoken costs and sacrifices of motherhood, relationships between women, and the slippery slope of using alcohol to take the edge off.

Available now for preorder and in bookstores everywhere May 13, 2025.

https://a.co/d/au9W8c8

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Jamie Woodall is an entrepreneur and (Still Here) trained Recovery Coach who is passionate about personal transformation. 

She trained as a Therapeutic Tutor for children with Dyslexia, helping them to see their own strengths and self-advocate. Jamie spent over a decade with the experiential education company, Where There Be Dragons, designing and instructing programs in the Himalayas and Indonesia for high school and gap-year students. 

She also co-founded the Odyssey Institute in Bali, which focused on environmental studies, leadership, and global citizenship.

Jamie is fascinated by experiences which push boundaries and inspire introspection, self-awareness, and personal growth.

Currently based on Bowen Island, BC, Canada, she is raising two teenagers, has recently learned to DJ, and is living her best life.

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Nele is the Recovery Program Coordinator at The Health Partnership. Check out her work at: Thehealthpartnership.org

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