• Robert F. Kennedy Jr. initially supported humanitarian aid to Ukraine, but became suspicious of the mission’s intent.
• Believes that the US decision-making has been about maximizing the violence of the war and rejecting opportunities to settle the conflict.
• RFK Jr. believes the Neocons in the White House want regime change in Russia and aim to exhaust and degrade Russian forces.

• “And President Biden acknowledged that one of his objectives in the war is regime change in Russia, removing Vladimir Putin.” – Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

• “The principal job of a president of the United States is to keep the nation out of war.” – John F. Kennedy
• “We’re all on an arc. And we need to understand each other’s motives and not just vilify each other.” – John F. Kennedy

(0:00) Bestie intros!

(0:49) Jason and Sacks intro Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

(3:46) Foreign policy: Ukraine / Russia

(17:17) Foreign policy: Taiwan / China

(18:57) Government spending: Fiscal responsibility, where to cut budget, debt ceiling

(33:22) US Govt Intelligence Agencies: "Deep State," increasing accountability, "agency capture"

(46:04) COVID: mishandling, more "agency capture," vaccine policy

(55:10) Broader thoughts on vaccines in general

(1:05:54) Energy policy: thoughts on nuclear

(1:15:29) Culture wars: trans issues, CRT in schools, public vs charter schools

(1:23:09) Media: declining trust, misaligned incentives, conflict of interest with large advertisers

(1:30:07) Mainstream media coverage, ABC News debacle, evolving with new information, money in politics

(1:40:37) The Besties do a post-interview debrief

(1:57:30) Announcing All-In Summit 2023!

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