Sobriety and recovery are often used interchangeable, but are they the same? Have you ever wondered what the difference between them actually is? Have you ever wondered what people actually mean when they talk about their "recovery"? We are joined by sober influencer Ryan from The Sober Mountain; recovery mentor Dana, founder of The Yarn Consolery LLC; and author and motivational speaker Martin Lockett to explore the meanings of these two words, and the importance in understanding the difference. We'll also dig into what the word "recovery" means to each of us, and how we apply that in our own lives.

Some of the other concepts we touch on include:

• "Who Am I?" Discovering and rebuilding your new identity in recovery

Martin Lockett is a substance abuse counselor, author, public speaker, and advocate for reducing DUI fatalities. He spent 17.5 years in prison for a DUI fatality that claimed two lives and severely injured another. Lockett devloted the rest of his life to honoring his victims' legacies by helping others who struggle with substance abuse. While incarcerated, Martin earned a BS in sociology, MS in psychology, and acquired state certification as a substance abuse counselor, and published two books. Now released, Lockett continues his mission and message by helping those in need of counseling for mental health and substance use disorders and sharing his powerful story across the country.

Ryan is passionate about helping people in their 20's and 30's naviage the challenges of sobriety in a culture that encourages dirnking. Getting sober in your 20's is weird, is' fun, it's difficult, but it's worth it. He truly believes that on the other side of sobriety, your talents, passions, and most authentic self are waiting for you. Find Ryan on Instagram @thesobermountain

Dana's chased recovery for 30 years. Arrests/the legal system didn't get her sober. Using drugs/alchol she completed her Masters degree and married; only briefly getting clean during pregnancy. Through therapy, meditation, quit lit, the I Am Sober app, contributing to Sobertown Podcasts, brainspotting, trauma yoga, facilitiating Rewired support groups, starting the Yarn Consolery, LLC and crisis training, she recovered. Cravings after having a NICU baby reignited her passion for life over addiction. Find Dana on Instagram @theyarnconsoleryllc

Dana and Julie discuss the book Rewired by Erica Speigelman and how it's benefitted their recovery.

Martin refers to the biopsychosocial spiritual model. Click here for more information.

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