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EP 142 | How I Built A 200-Person Company With ZERO Systems - Graeme Holm


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Graeme Holm reveals why he built a 200-person empire with NO systems, the 3 external CEOs who all failed, how his team stays 8+ years when the industry average is 18 months, and the brutal truth about scaling that business coaches won't tell you. 


Graeme Holm runs a mortgage business with 189 staff, created a "treasure chest" of award-winning leaders, and refuses to sell despite massive offers.


He exposes:

◼️ Why the 3 external CEOs he hired over 18 months all failed—and what that taught him about ownership

◼️ The "no systems" approach that kept his best people for 8-9 years (rare in any industry)

◼️ How his head of finance won Broker of the Year while working FOR him, not competing against him

◼️ Why "no one will ever treat your business like their own"—the truth about hired leadership

◼️ The difference between owners and operators—and why most business coaches were "failed employees"

◼️ How Rachel now runs his masterclasses after he built a "treasure chest of people" who can replace him

◼️ Why he's manic, unstructured, and ignores every business guru—yet scaled to nearly 200 staff going global

◼️ The real secret to long-tenure staff: competent people, not perfect systems

◼️ Why he refuses to sell for any amount—because "bean counters would run it and the community would suffer"

◼️ What 12 years of blood, sweat and tears bought him: "Now I can spend the rest of my life however the f*ck I want"


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