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In this week's episode Jody and David talk to Lisa Jackson, author, runner and member of The 100 Marathon Club - but most interestingly Lisa has made a name for herself around her ability to come last in a string of races.

The discussion focuses on just how hard it is to actually come last in a race - especially when there seems to be just as much competition for the coveted last place spot - and what it's like when you're back of the pack. The chat also turns to elitism and celebrating slower runners and how to make running more inclusive.

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