“Don’t give a speech; give an EXPERIENCE!”, says podcast co-host Mark Brown. 21st-century audiences are more savvy than ever, rarely wanting a presenter who will deliver a ‘motivational speech’. Audiences want to connect and engage. Listen as Darren & Mark ‘engage’ with Marvelless Mark Kamp, the ROCKSTAR of Audience Engagement, who reveals his secrets for getting groups of 4 to 4,000 on their feet, participating, taking the stage, and leaving with a solid message…all while enjoying a ROCKSTA