Cheaper Than Therapy with Vanessa and Dené

Ep 217: Q&A: Finding the Middle Ground


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In this Q&A episode, someone wrote in to ask: as I’m starting to do recovery work around codependency, I find that I sometimes swing into hyper-independence. How do I find a middle ground? 

We talked about:


✨What it looks like to move out of the space of enmeshment into a differentiated sense of self.

✨Realizing that we staying present with ourselves is a practice that we all have to continuously come back to.

✨The evolution of relationships that are co-created by the people involved instead of looking to society to define what’s “normal.” 

✨Understanding the distinction between attachment and intimacy and how we can fall into patterns of self-abandonment 


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    • TikTok: @denelogan

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