In this conversation, ultra runners Brian Passenti, Simon Guerard, and DeShawna Joe discuss the challenges and triumphs of ultra running, particularly focusing on DeShawna's journey through grief after the loss of her daughter. They explore how running serves as a healing outlet, the importance of community support, and the need for greater diversity in the ultra running scene. DeShawna shares her aspirations to raise awareness about distracted driving and to inspire others in her community, particularly Native Americans, to participate in ultra running. The discussion highlights the emotional and physical aspects of ultra running, the significance of personal stories, and the collective responsibility to foster inclusivity in the sport.