Tim Twietmeyer has finished Western States 25 times under 24 hours and 5 first place finishes. Hal Hall has finished 30 Tevis Cup finishes (Western States trail horse endurance ride) with multiple 1st place finishes.

Tim and Hal received a "Tile" in downtown Auburn California recognizing their contributions. We sit down and chat about the history of WS trail, training horses vs training a human.

Craig Thornley RD of WS 100 helps host this podcast that was recorded live at Auburn Running Company.

We had a great time, we hope you enjoy as much as we did.

You can find a the live video on the WS FaceBook site.