As a young runner, Steve Magness was a very fast runner, holding one of the fastest high school mile times at 4:01.  He was a model for toughness, pushing through the pain until he puked.  But this strategy failed as he continued trying to break the 4:00 barrier at the University of Houston.

Steve Magness is a runner, coach and world-renowned expert on peak performance. He uncovers the science and helps us learn how to be better athletes and tougher people. In his new book Do Hard Things - Why We Get Resilience Wrong and the Surprising Science of REAL TOUGHNESS Steve looks at the science and helps us learn how to be more resilient and learn how to do hard things.

We did a chapter by chapter review of this book leading up to this episode. If you want to learn more listen to these episodes:

• Part 1 - Chapters 2,5,6
• Part 2 - Chapters 3,7,11
• Part 3 - Chapters 1,4,8,9,10

Steve is the co-founder of The Growth Equation, an online platform dedicated to the understanding and practice of performance and well-being. He also co-hosts The Growth Equation Podcast with Brad Stulberg and On Coaching Podcast with Jon Marcus. You can follow him on Twitter and Instagram @SteveMagness

Andy Jones-Wilkins joins us to wrap up this great book. Hire Andy as a coach! or check out his weekly Tap Room at iRunFar