Megan Devine, writer, speaker, and grief advocate discusses her work to bring grief out of the whisper corner. We talk about how to talk about grief, the death positivity movement, Megan's book, It's OK That You're Not OK - Meeting Grief & Loss in a Culture that Doesn't Understand, and what she terms the grief revolution. Ways to connect with Megan that we reference in the episode: Article - Death Positivity in the Face of Grief on The Order of the Good Death website. (www.orderofthegooddeath.com/death-positivity-face-grief) Book - It's OK That You're Not OK - Meeting Grief and Loss in a Culture That Doesn't Understand (www.refugeingrief.com/book/) Website - Refuge in Grief (www.refugeingrief.com) Review of her book in The New York Times - Understanding Grief: Megan Devine and the Grief Revolution in Jane Brody's Wellness column at the New York Times. (www.nytimes.com/2018/01/24/learning/how-do-you-cope-with-grief.html) Music written and performed by Leila Chieko