In this episode, we are joined by Michael Miller to discuss his book Run Like a Rarámuri : Stories and Wisdoms from the Sierra Tarahumara and Running Long and his deep connection to the Indigenous Rarámuri "running people" of Mexico's Sierra Tarahumara. Drawing on years spent living among the community, Michael shares how running is woven into their social fabric as a celebration of resilience, nature, and togetherness rather than competition or performance. The conversation explores powerful cultural concepts like korima, the practice of sharing without expectation, and how movement in nature can restore balance and contentment in modern life. Michael also reflects on the legacy of Micah True (Caballo Blanco) and the evolution of the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco race, which now brings together runners from around the world while supporting local communities. We consider what trail runners can learn from the Rarámuri about simplicity, presence, and reconnecting with the deeper purpose of running. Ultimately, the discussion suggests that "running like a Rarámuri" is less about technique and more about learning to live with gratitude, connection, and joy.

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• Ultra Caballo Blanco

• Copper Canyons

• Entre Amigos Camps

• Instagram

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Timestamps

• 0:00 Intro to Michael Miller and Run Like a Rarámuri

• 2:05 What makes the Ultramarathon Caballo Blanco unique

• 6:15 Who the Rarámuri are and how Born to Run shaped their global story

• 14:10 Running as culture: traditional games, community, and connection

• 20:06 Michael's personal journey to the Sierra and why this became a passion project

• 29:37 Training vs. lifestyle: how the Rarámuri develop endurance naturally

• 34:52 Is the book about running… or about living?

• 44:42 Korima explained: sharing, gratitude, and the social fabric of the Rarámuri

• 51:11 Supporting the community: nonprofit work and how listeners can help

• 58:13 Closing reflections on Micah True's legacy and running free