Kara Jones is a practitioner working with grieving people and professionals supporting those in grief. She is also a heART maker, exploring creativity as an avenue for expanding our definitions of grief, meaning, and self-care. We talk about Kara's personal grief after the death of her son and how that experience opened the door to recognizing how access to care and support after a death is influenced and affected by so many factors including race, gender, class, geographic location, education level, and more. We discuss how important staying curious and aware are in working to acknowledge and address these inequities. Resources we reference in our conversation: Kara's site for those in grief Grief and Creativity Kara's site for professionals The Creative Grief Studio Madness & Creativity by Ann Belford Ulanov LGBTQ-Inclusive Hospice and Palliative Care: A Practical Guide to Transforming Professional Practice 1st Edition by Kimberly Acquaviva: Self-Care Sustenance (Includes link to Beyond Self-Care Bubble Baths: A Vision for Community Care by Abeni Jones) An earlier version of the equity illustration Later version with everyone on the team Crisis Text Line: Text HOME to 741741 Warm Lines National Suicide Prevention Line: 1-800-273-8255