Family and personal therapist Tony Overbay dives in deep with James and Steve on many topics and shared this quote: “The strongest force in the human personality is to act in alignment with how you see yourself” which lead to a discussion of how identifying ourselves primarily as addicts is very limiting and can become a self-fulfilling prophecy which limits our ability to become “recover-e-d” as Steve puts it. Tony talks about the importance of understanding our human condition with iterative growth and pushing aside shame to instead focus on what we are doing right and how to do more of that. 

To learn more about Tony and to connect with him, visit https://www.tonyoverbay.com/. 

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