What makes for meaningful progress at work, at school and in our life? And how might we ensure that in our quests in learning, teaching, innovating and leading we aren't seduced by delusions of progress?

In today's podcast we speak with brilliant Dr Jason Fox, an author, leadership advisor and wizard-philosopher, and delve into complexity as we seek to pioneer new and meaningful progress—beyond the default.

Join us for a dangerous, sincere and ironic conversation, as we inquire into how we might not to fall prey to developmental blindness as we try to create pockets of emergence and motivational conditions through our work. How might we create visions and strategic plans while also considering them as amusing hypotheses? Into our learning future, perhaps it's honest communication coupled with how we make sense of things that offers us a savvy way to move forward and create powerful environments for work and learning.