In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer and Matthew sit down with longtime friend and recruiter, Dylan Scroggins — Founder of Kalmar Group and property management's unofficial headhunter.

They cover:

• Why your "founder story" doesn't matter to an A-player (and what does)
• The #1 role property managers get wrong when hiring
• When it's time to stop hiring from your network and start hiring like a pro
• The Grinder: a brutal but brilliant interview technique that exposes true talent
• Why most PMs think they need a "director" before they actually do
• What great storytelling has to do with great recruiting
• How to hire someone that makes you nervous (in the best way possible)
• The mistake of confusing "good at lunch" with "good at the job"
• How Nick Saban built a dynasty using recruiting as his superpower — and how PM owners can do the same
• A step-by-step hiring process for teams under 500 doors (including the exact order of interviews)

Plus:

• A hilarious origin story of the term "The Grinder"
• Spencer and Matthew's keys to finding, landing, and keeping A-players
• Dylan's worst reason to hire someone — and it's one most PMs fall for

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Guest: Dylan Scroggins, Founder of Kalmar Group | Meet Dylan on LinkedIn

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