Future Squared with Steve Glaveski

Episode #161: Kevin Kelly on the Inevitable


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Kevin Kelly is Senior Maverick at Wired magazine. He co-founded Wired in 1993, and served as its Executive Editor for its first seven years. He is also founding editor and co-publisher of the popular Cool Tools website, which has been reviewing tools daily since 2003.

From 1984-1990 Kelly was publisher and editor of the Whole Earth Review, a journal of unorthodox technical news.

He co-founded the ongoing Hackers’ Conference, and was involved with the launch of the WELL, a pioneering online service started in 1985. His books include the best-selling New Rules for the New Economy, the classic book on decentralized emergent systems, Out of Control, a graphic novel about robots and angels, The Silver Cord, an oversize catalog of the best of Cool Tools, and his summary theory of technology in What Technology Wants (2010).

His new book is The Inevitable - Understanding the 12 Technological Forces that will Shape Our Future, which is a New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestseller.

This was a fascinating conversation with one of the most influential names in technology, entrepreneurship, digital media and future thinking.

Expect to learn a number of things throughout the podcast but specifically Kevin and I cover:

  1. Whether humanity will find new things to do or simply live an unfulfilling existence once most of today’s jobs are automated or made redundant
  2. What large companies can do to prepare for what Kevin Kelly refers to as The Inevitable
  3. What we should do to combat online recommendation systems that serve to harden our minds to particular tastes or beliefs

All topics discussed:

  • Kevin’s travels to Uzbekistan and his views on the national dish
  • How Kevin landed on 12 technological forces that will shape our inevitable future
  • Why there’s never been a better time to start a business
  • Why we all be endless newbies going forward, regardless of age or experience
  • The number one skill people need to learn to succeed in the future
  • Will humanity find new things to do once we automate most of what we already do?
  • Why trying to ban the inevitable (and companies like UBER or Airbnb) backfires
  • Will we have jobs in the future?

Show notes:

Kevin Kelly’s blog: www.kk.org

Cool Tools: www.kk.org/cooltools

Book: https://amzn.to/2p85Fan

Twitter: @kevin2kelly

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