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In this part II of their analysis of THINK CELESTIAL, Valerie and Nathan continue to thoroughly examine the psychological, relational, and theological implications of Nelson's talk, highlighting potential harmful ideas and the importance of maintaining healthy perspectives within religious discourse. Key topics addressed in this episode include: -A conversation about the concept of a God who gets offended at the suffering of their children-A reframe around the concept of addiction and how love (not judgment) is the means of healing -A conversation about extreme damage done in encouraging individuals to choose loyalty to an institution over family and loved ones who want and deserve dialogue about challenging topics related to spirituality.Referenced in this episode: Think Celestial: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/10/51nelson?lang=eng About Cults: https://drsteveeichel.com/about-cults Demon Copperhead: https://a.co/d/8s9PXt1——————————————————————————————————————SUPPORT: Like what you’re hearing at Latter Day Struggles Podcast? You can support Valerie’s efforts by becoming a recurring donor on Patreon.com!——————————————————————————————————————SUPPORT GROUPS: You are invited to join one of Valerie’s space-limited Faith Crisis and Expansion Support and Processing Groups! As a trauma therapist, she continues to help our LDS faith expansion community become psychologically healthier and spiritually well in and around the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Details about availability on latterdaystruggles.com. These groups ALWAYS FILL UP, so jump in asap! https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/support-groups/how-to-join-a-support-group/——————————————————————————————————————COURSES: Now available! “A Couple’s Guide to Faith Crisis and Expansion” parts I and II. See what else is offered on latterdaystruggles.com https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/course-library/——————————————————————————————————————CONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available! https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/private-practice/——————————————————————
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In this part II of their analysis of THINK CELESTIAL, Valerie and Nathan continue to thoroughly examine the psychological, relational, and theological implications of Nelson's talk, highlighting potential harmful ideas and the importance of maintaining healthy perspectives within religious discourse. Key topics addressed in this episode include: -A conversation about the concept of a God who gets offended at the suffering of their children-A reframe around the concept of addiction and how love (not judgment) is the means of healing -A conversation about extreme damage done in encouraging individuals to choose loyalty to an institution over family and loved ones who want and deserve dialogue about challenging topics related to spirituality.Referenced in this episode: Think Celestial: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2023/10/51nelson?lang=eng About Cults: https://drsteveeichel.com/about-cults Demon Copperhead: https://a.co/d/8s9PXt1——————————————————————————————————————SUPPORT: Like what you’re hearing at Latter Day Struggles Podcast? You can support Valerie’s efforts by becoming a recurring donor on Patreon.com!——————————————————————————————————————SUPPORT GROUPS: You are invited to join one of Valerie’s space-limited Faith Crisis and Expansion Support and Processing Groups! As a trauma therapist, she continues to help our LDS faith expansion community become psychologically healthier and spiritually well in and around the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.Details about availability on latterdaystruggles.com. These groups ALWAYS FILL UP, so jump in asap! https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/support-groups/how-to-join-a-support-group/——————————————————————————————————————COURSES: Now available! “A Couple’s Guide to Faith Crisis and Expansion” parts I and II. See what else is offered on latterdaystruggles.com https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/course-library/——————————————————————————————————————CONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available! https://valeriehamaker.com/latter-day-struggles/private-practice/——————————————————————
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CONSULTING: Interested in doing individual or couples work with Valerie or a member of her trained team? Time-limited packages with Valerie and extended work with her team of coaches and therapists are available here!
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