Lindsay Webster is arguably the most successful obstacle course racer of the past few years. Her husband, Ryan Atkins, is also a pretty good athlete. They were both victorious in the recent Spartan Games (a championship among champions) and Ryan’s team finished second at World’s Toughest Race: Eco-Challenge Fiji 2019 (streaming on Amazon Prime). Travis talks with Lindsay and Ryan about their competitive backgrounds; the value of a laid back attitude; training principles and practices; goals for the future (bikepacking, FKTs, OCR, trail running); why skimo is the most enjoyable training around; mindset tips; and more.