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Episode 802: Ben Schilaty, Clare Dalton, Liz Macdonald: “All Out In the Open” Podcast


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My friends Dr. Ben Schilaty, Clare Dalton, and Liz Macdonald join us to talk about the rebranding of the powerful podcast “Questions From The Closet” to “All Out in the Open.” They share how the expanded scope includes once-a-month hosts including Iese Wilson focusing on international queer Latter-day Saints, Clare Dalton on how the scriptures provide principles to help queer Latter-day Saints, Liz Macdonald and Michael Soto talking about community building, and Ben Schilaty and Charlie Bird talking about how to be more open with ourselves and others.
They also talk about the Gather/All Arizona conference in Mesa (March 29, 2025), the Gatherings monthly scripture curriculum, the annual Gather Conference in Provo (June 26-28, 2025), and a new conference called Belong (a conference for queer youth and youth allies—born out of the successful Gather track at the 2024 conference).
If you want to feel hope in the LDS/LGBTQ space, please listen to this episode and (more importantly) listen to “All Out in the Open” podcast. Ben, Clare, and Liz are doing such great work and represent the hundreds of people in this space working to “expand the borders” of Zion where more feel loved, needed, and true belonging. Their principled approach gives us all better ideas on what we can do in our circle of influence to better support queer Latter-day Saints.
Thank you, Ben, Clare, Liz for being on the podcast and all your great work!
Links:
All Out in the Open Podcast: alloutintheopen.org/
Gather curriculum: gather-conference.com/gatherings
Gather Arizona March 29, 2025: www.allarizona.org/conferences (registration not live yet)
Belong Youth Conference June 26-28, 2025:
www.belongyouthconference.org to receive registration info as it becomes available. Follow @belongyouthconf on Instagram.
Gather June 26-28, 2025: www.gather-conference.com/ (registration not live yet)
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