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has been in the health and fitness industry for over a decade. Starting out as a party coordinator at a sports centre and working his way up to studying at the European Institute of Fitness and qualifying as a Master Personal Trainer. After 5 years of running a fitness boot camp business Sam decided to move away from that business in order to fully focus on improving public health by setting up and directing the Public Health Collaboration.
Sam started as a personal trainer and then set fitness bootcamps called Smash The Fat. Sam used to have his own podcast for Smash The Fat.
After reading Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes he started to recommend low carb, real food diets.
In 2015 he felt he was in a philosophical quandary. He felt to continue the business would be an uphill battle against mainstream dietary advice, which Sam felt was bad advice. He felt the only way to tackle the issue was to get to the root cause.
He decided not to continue with Smash The Fat and to set up a not for profit charity aimed at lobbying the government that the food guide lines need to be changed and suggesting that they might have got the guidelines wrong in the 80s.
Sam proposed this to Dr Aseem Malhotra, Dr Trudi Deakin, Dr David Unwin, Dr Jen Unwin who thought it was a great idea and so the Public Health Collaboration (PHC) was started.
Ambassadors Programme
The Ambassadors are local representatives of the PHC, who liaise with healthcare professionals in NHS GP practices. They help set up free support groups and show the results the programme is achieving with patients improving metabolic health and saving money for the NHS.
Andy Bishop is a PHC Ambassador who joined a patient participation group, then got the PHC on the agenda for a meeting. Eventually he was able to set up a group. It took 18 months to get the first group up and running but now has 4-5 groups in north Liverpool.
Ambassadors are beginning to make breakthroughs by going through the patient participant groups.
Sam's Top TipsSam’s old training Smash the Fat
http://live.smashthefat.com/
Sam’s high fat experiment
http://live.smashthefat.com/why-i-didnt-get-fat/
Smash the Fat YT
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCFMZHxKvSFn-wLjaV2hf1g?feature=emb_ch_name_ex
Smash the Fat Podcast
https://podtail.com/en/podcast/smash-the-fat/
PHCUK Resources
https://phcuk.org/resources/
Dr David Unwin’s Sugar Infographics
https://phcuk.org/sugar/
PHCUK Ambassadors Program
https://phcuk.org/ambassadors/
is a 52 year old who hails originally from Bournemouth, in the south of England. She is a qualified Personal Trainer, with special certifications in Kettlebell training, HIIT training and Cardio Kickboxing, plus she is also a qualified Naturopathic Nutritionist and Primal Health Coach.
Years of various illnesses relating to gut health led Lisa to investigate her dietary patterns and, after qualifying as a nutritionist, more research took her on a journey from vegetarian to carnivore with the result of alleviation of all her symptoms.
After suffering an injury to her back many years ago, she turned to strength training to heal her own body, and believes that exercise is an important part of the overall lifestyle and achieving optimal health.
Lisa got into low carb/keto for health reasons. She had been a vegetarian for 27 years, fortunately she ate eggs. She thought she was doing it for health reasons and environmental reasons. Lisa suffered with IBS symptoms. After training as a personal trainer and nutritionist, she read a lot, which led her to paleo, thinking she had an issue with gluten. She ate paleo as a vegetarian and was constantly tired.
With more research she felt she had to add some meat and fish back into her diet. This wasn’t an easy decision having been a vegetarian for 27 years.
Lisa lost her smell and taste. The doctors thought it was due to allergies and gave some steroids to take for the rest of her life. The steroids didn’t help and she learned to live without smell and taste for 20 years.
She then looked into zero carbs but couldn’t imagine living without vegetables. Within 3 weeks her smell and taste came back.
Lisa eats nose to tail and her health has never been as good. Lisa believes if you are going to kill an animal then you should make use of the whole animal, plus different parts of the animal have different nutrients.
Lisa explains the difference between carnivore and keto carnivore.
Exercise is not a weight loss tool but it does matter. There are so many benefits to exercise. It affects the health of your mitochondria, it affects muscle mass. If you do high intensity resistance training and high intensity cardio, they can be short, sharp workouts, which is so beneficial.
Lisa talks about the SAID principle - The specific adaptation to imposed demands. Your body will adapt when you put demand on it greater than what it is used to. The body has to adapt.
Many people are not eating enough protein, especially women. They are afraid of red meat, they’re afraid of protein, especially older people who really need it.
Kettlebells are very versatile that can be done at home with little equipment. We need to build our core strength.
Be patient and give it time
Avoid substituting unhealthy foods with healthier versions - step away from substituting
Embrace that it is a lifestyle change
Amber O’Hearn
https://www.mostly-fat.com/
Georgia Eade
https://www.diagnosisdiet.com/blog
The Fat of The Land - Vilhjalmur Stefansson
https://amzn.to/2HZwHgQ
Strong Medicine - Blake F. Donaldson
https://amzn.to/34QLenN
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and M
is a 52 year old who hails originally from Bournemouth, in the south of England. She is a qualified Personal Trainer, with special certifications in Kettlebell training, HIIT training and Cardio Kickboxing, plus she is also a qualified Naturopathic Nutritionist and Primal Health Coach.
Years of various illnesses relating to gut health led Lisa to investigate her dietary patterns and, after qualifying as a nutritionist, more research took her on a journey from vegetarian to carnivore with the result of alleviation of all her symptoms.
After suffering an injury to her back many years ago, she turned to strength training to heal her own body, and believes that exercise is an important part of the overall lifestyle and achieving optimal health.
Lisa got into low carb/keto for health reasons. She had been a vegetarian for 27 years, fortunately she ate eggs. She thought she was doing it for health reasons and environmental reasons. Lisa suffered with IBS symptoms. After training as a personal trainer and nutritionist, she read a lot, which led her to paleo, thinking she had an issue with gluten. She ate paleo as a vegetarian and was constantly tired.
With more research she felt she had to add some meat and fish back into her diet. This wasn’t an easy decision having been a vegetarian for 27 years.
Lisa lost her smell and taste. The doctors thought it was due to allergies and gave some steroids to take for the rest of her life. The steroids didn’t help and she learned to live without smell and taste for 20 years.
She then looked into zero carbs but couldn’t imagine living without vegetables. Within 3 weeks her smell and taste came back.
Lisa eats nose to tail and her health has never been as good. Lisa believes if you are going to kill an animal then you should make use of the whole animal, plus different parts of the animal have different nutrients.
Lisa explains the difference between carnivore and keto carnivore.
Exercise is not a weight loss tool but it does matter. There are so many benefits to exercise. It affects the health of your mitochondria, it affects muscle mass. If you do high intensity resistance training and high intensity cardio, they can be short, sharp workouts, which is so beneficial.
Lisa talks about the SAID principle - The specific adaptation to imposed demands. Your body will adapt when you put demand on it greater than what it is used to. The body has to adapt.
Many people are not eating enough protein, especially women. They are afraid of red meat, they’re afraid of protein, especially older people who really need it.
Kettlebells are very versatile that can be done at home with little equipment. We need to build our core strength.
Lisa's Top TipsBe patient and give it time
Avoid substituting unhealthy foods with healthier versions - step away from substituting
Embrace that it is a lifestyle change
Amber O’Hearn
https://www.mostly-fat.com/
Georgia Eade
https://www.diagnosisdiet.com/blog
The Fat of The Land - Vilhjalmur Stefansson
https://amzn.to/2HZwHgQ
Strong Medicine - Blake F. Donaldson
https://amzn.to/34QLenN
Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects - Weston A Price
has been living a ketogenic lifestyle for the last 6 years which has improved his quality of life. Despite having been fairly active most of his life with running and going to the gym, he struggled with weight gain as he aged. At 40 years old he had his first hip replacement and was advised to not run due to it being a high impact activity and may affect the lifespan of the hip replacement. After completing his hip rehabilitation he then took up cycling with a vengeance which helped achieve some weight loss but only to a point. It wasn’t until he turned 46 years of age that he discovered LCHF/keto and haven’t looked back since.
He was always very active but couldn’t understand how he kept putting on weight.
At 39 he was diagnosed with early onset osteoarthritis. He had one operation that didn’t help and that was followed by a full hip replacement and then the other hip 18 months later.
Fidel’s wife is low carb as well as his daughter and mum. He helps lots of people to change their way of eating.
Fidel uses exogenous ketones, both ketone salts and ketone esters, before races and before exams. He uses them strategically because of the cost, it is not feasible to do this all the time.
Unless Fidel is doing extremely long races of over 8 hours he fasts prior to and during a ride. He only drinks water and black coffee.
CAC Scan in the UK
In the UK, CAC scans are private for example:
http://www.rivershospital.co.uk/treatments/ct-calcium-scoring
https://phcuk.org/ambassadors/
Game Changers movie
https://gamechangersmovie.com/
Professor Richard Fields UK surgeon
https://www.eoc.nhs.uk/professor-richard-field.html
New Atkins For a New You: The Ultimate Diet for Shedding Weight and Feeling Great - Dr Eric C Westman, Dr Stephen D Phinney and Dr Jeff S Volek
https://amzn.to/3oeG7Wg
This is the original book by Dr Robert Atkins
Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution: The No-hunger, Luxurious Weight Loss Plan That Really Works! - Dr Robert C Atkins
https://amzn.to/37vcJoF
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance - Dr Jeff S Volek and Dr Stephen D Phinney
https://amzn.to/3oggmF4
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living - Dr Jeff S Volek and Dr Stephen D Phinney
https://amzn.to/2HjSksl
The Big Fat Surprise - Nina Teicholz
https://amzn.to/3k9t4Ts
Diabetes Epidemic and You - Dr Joseph R. Kraft
https://amzn.to/2FZJmzy
Eat Fat Get Thin - Dr Mark Hyman
https://amzn.to/34sMsW8
Real Meal Revolution - Prof Tim Noakes
https://amzn.to/3kueiXg
Dominic D’Agostino
has been living a ketogenic lifestyle for the last 6 years which has improved his quality of life. Despite having been fairly active most of his life with running and going to the gym, he struggled with weight gain as he aged. At 40 years old he had his first hip replacement and was advised to not run due to it being a high impact activity and may affect the lifespan of the hip replacement. After completing his hip rehabilitation he then took up cycling with a vengeance which helped achieve some weight loss but only to a point. It wasn’t until he turned 46 years of age that he discovered LCHF/keto and haven’t looked back since.
He was always very active but couldn’t understand how he kept putting on weight.
At 39 he was diagnosed with early onset osteoarthritis. He had one operation that didn’t help and that was followed by a full hip replacement and then the other hip 18 months later.
Fidel’s wife is low carb as well as his daughter and mum. He helps lots of people to change their way of eating.
Fidel uses exogenous ketones, both ketone salts and ketone esters, before races and before exams. He uses them strategically because of the cost, it is not feasible to do this all the time.
Unless Fidel is doing extremely long races of over 8 hours he fasts prior to and during a ride. He only drinks water and black coffee.
Resources MentionedCAC Scan in the UK
In the UK, CAC scans are private for example:
http://www.rivershospital.co.uk/treatments/ct-calcium-scoring
PHCUK Ambassadors Program
https://phcuk.org/ambassadors/
Game Changers movie
https://gamechangersmovie.com/
Professor Richard Fields UK surgeon
https://www.eoc.nhs.uk/professor-richard-field.html
New Atkins For a New You: The Ultimate Diet for Shedding Weight and Feeling Great - Dr Eric C Westman, Dr Stephen D Phinney and Dr Jeff S Volek
https://amzn.to/3oeG7Wg
This is the original book by Dr Robert Atkins
Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution: The No-hunger, Luxurious Weight Loss Plan That Really Works! - Dr Robert C Atkins
https://amzn.to/37vcJoF
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Performance - Dr Jeff S Volek and Dr Stephen D Phinney
https://amzn.to/3oggmF4
The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living - Dr Jeff S Volek and Dr Stephen D Phinney
https://amzn.to/2HjSksl
The Big Fat Surprise - Nina Teicholz
https://amzn.to/3k9t4Ts
Diabetes Epidemic and You - Dr Joseph R. Kraft
https://amzn.to/2FZJmzy
Eat Fat Get Thin - Dr Mark Hyman
https://amzn.to/34sMsW8
Real Meal Revolution - Prof Tim Noakes
https://amzn.to/3kueiXg
YouTube resourcesDominic D’Agostino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3oEKm7Jrg4
Jeff Volek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yi
was brought up in Ipswich. He qualified as a doctor at Sheffield University in 1978 (the very same year he got married and Ipswich won the FA Cup - a rather good year). He worked for two years in Sierra Leone before before returning to Sheffield to starting speciality training in Obstetrics and Gynaecology. He swapped over to General Practice in 1989.
Chris Barclay is currently a GP and medical writer. His special interest in diet and health began with a chance encounter; a patient told him how he had lost weight by cutting out carbohydrate foods. Chris has researched the subject ever since. He was principal investigator for the ISAIAH-Project, a diet trial in pre-diabetic patients. His conclusion: processed carbs, starchy foods and sugar are the problem; they are driving our Diabesity epidemic. In his book, Beating Diabetes the low-carb way, Chris presents compelling and persuasive evidence and translated it into a practical and effective plan. Chris has written regularly for medical magazines, most recently The Practitioner magazine. He is the lead writer for MaPPs, a drug information website to help health care organisations (Hospital Trusts mainly) provide reliable, easy to read information on medicines that can be printed off for patients to take away (again, translational work). He worked for many years as GP in Sheffield before moving back to Suffolk. He has worked most recently as a GP in Aldeburgh,
His new book Beating Diabetes the low-carb way collects the fruits of his research and enquiries in one place.
This is the second part of our interview with Dr Chris Barclay.
We start by touching on fruit and how the daily recommendation from the ‘Eat Well’ plate of ‘five a day’ came about.
We think of fruit as healthy but fruit has been genetically modified to be sweeter than it was before. If we are going to eat fruit - the best way to eat them.
If you are confused about which vegetables are lower in carbohydrates, check out the Diet Doctor: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetables
The Diet Doctor has low carb fruits listed here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits
We discuss the possibility of giving nutrition advice in the UK.
Beating Diabetes The Low Carb Way - Dr Chris Barclay
https://amzn.to/2SR22Eu
Life without bread: How a Low Carbohydrate Diet Can Save your life by Christian B Allan and Dr Wolfgang Lutz
https://amzn.to/2HcpnON
Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes
https://amzn.to/37fPKhp
Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD
https://www.zoeharcombe.com/
The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz
https://amzn.to/3k9t4Ts
The Pioppi Diet by Dr Aseem Malhotra
https://amzn.to/3j87dL0
The Fast Diet by Dr Michael Mosley and Mimi Spencer (5-2) diet
https://amzn.to/37aYKV4
Robert Lustig video Sugar: The Bitter Truth
https://robertlustig.com/sugar-the-bitter-truth/
was brought up in Ipswich. He qualified as a doctor at Sheffield University in 1978 (the very same year he got married and Ipswich won the FA Cup - a rather good year). He worked for two years in Sierra Leone before before returning to Sheffield to starting speciality training in Obstetrics and Gynaecology. He swapped over to General Practice in 1989.
Chris Barclay is currently a GP and medical writer. His special interest in diet and health began with a chance encounter; a patient told him how he had lost weight by cutting out carbohydrate foods. Chris has researched the subject ever since. He was principal investigator for the ISAIAH-Project, a diet trial in pre-diabetic patients. His conclusion: processed carbs, starchy foods and sugar are the problem; they are driving our Diabesity epidemic. In his book, Beating Diabetes the low-carb way, Chris presents compelling and persuasive evidence and translated it into a practical and effective plan. Chris has written regularly for medical magazines, most recently The Practitioner magazine. He is the lead writer for MaPPs, a drug information website to help health care organisations (Hospital Trusts mainly) provide reliable, easy to read information on medicines that can be printed off for patients to take away (again, translational work). He worked for many years as GP in Sheffield before moving back to Suffolk. He has worked most recently as a GP in Aldeburgh,
His new book Beating Diabetes the low-carb way collects the fruits of his research and enquiries in one place.
This is the second part of our interview with Dr Chris Barclay.
We start by touching on fruit and how the daily recommendation from the ‘Eat Well’ plate of ‘five a day’ came about.
We think of fruit as healthy but fruit has been genetically modified to be sweeter than it was before. If we are going to eat fruit - the best way to eat them.
If you are confused about which vegetables are lower in carbohydrates, check out the Diet Doctor: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetables
The Diet Doctor has low carb fruits listed here: https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/fruits
We discuss the possibility of giving nutrition advice in the UK.
Dr Chris' BookBeating Diabetes The Low Carb Way - Dr Chris Barclay
https://amzn.to/2SR22Eu
Resources MentionedLife without bread: How a Low Carbohydrate Diet Can Save your life by Christian B Allan and Dr Wolfgang Lutz
https://amzn.to/2HcpnON
Good Calories, Bad Calories by Gary Taubes
https://amzn.to/37fPKhp
Dr Zoe Harcombe PhD
https://www.zoeharcombe.com/
The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz
https://amzn.to/3k9t4Ts
The Pioppi Diet by Dr Aseem Malhotra
https://amzn.to/3j87dL0
The Fast Diet by Dr Michael Mosley and Mimi Spencer (5-2) diet
https://amzn.to/37aYKV4
Robert Lustig video Sugar: The Bitter Truth
https://robertlustig.com/sugar-the-bitter-truth/
Public Health Collaboration UK
https://
was brought up in Ipswich. He qualified as a doctor at Sheffield University in 1978 (the very same year he got married and Ipswich won the FA Cup - a rather good year). He worked for two years in Sierra Leone before before returning to Sheffield to starting speciality training in Obstetrics and Gynaecology. He swapped over to General Practice in 1989.
Chris Barclay is currently a GP and medical writer. His special interest in diet and health began with a chance encounter; a patient told him how he had lost weight by cutting out carbohydrate foods. Chris has researched the subject ever since. He was principal investigator for the ISAIAH-Project, a diet trial in pre-diabetic patients. His conclusion: processed carbs, starchy foods and sugar are the problem; they are driving our Diabesity epidemic. In his book, Beating Diabetes the low-carb way, Chris presents compelling and persuasive evidence and translated it into a practical and effective plan. Chris has written regularly for medical magazines, most recently The Practitioner magazine. He is the lead writer for MaPPs, a drug information website to help health care organisations (Hospital Trusts mainly) provide reliable, easy to read information on medicines that can be printed off for patients to take away (again, translational work). He worked for many years as GP in Sheffield before moving back to Suffolk. He has worked most recently as a GP in Aldeburgh,
His new book Beating Diabetes the low-carb way collects the fruits of his research and enquiries in one place.
Beating Diabetes The Low Carb Way - Dr Chris Barclay
https://amzn.to/2SR22Eu
When the food guidelines came in during the 80s Chris just took them on board. He didn’t think about them. Assumed that the people who were overweight, it was because they ate too much and moved too little.
Through a patient he discovered Dine Out and Lose Weight book (https://amzn.to/3jLmsKS) and found out and about the Glycemic Index.
Chris was part of a team running a clinical trial called ISIAH. It was a pilot study to see if the programme could work but they couldn’t getting funding for a proper study because there was no money to be made.
Dr Chris noticed that when the food guidelines came in the increase in obesity and Type 2 Diabetes took a lurch upwards.
He talks about two diets:
Thermogenic diets
Insulin modulating diets
Minnesota Starvation Diet - Ancel Keys
During 1940’s test subjects’ calories were significantly reduced. Subjects’ metabolism slowed, hardly moved, they were cold. Problem with this dieting you have to keep cutting the calories. The body goes into starvation mode.
Dine out and Lose Weight - Michel Montignac
https://amzn.to/3jLmsKS
The New High Protein Diet - Dr Charles Clark
https://amzn.to/3jKVrY9
"I should tell you about my nutritional training as a doctor and it was nil. We got no nutritional training whatsoever."
Dr Chris Barclay
"Most of the healthcare professionals I have come across are completely unaware of the whole low carb principles and how effective it can be."
was brought up in Ipswich. He qualified as a doctor at Sheffield University in 1978 (the very same year he got married and Ipswich won the FA Cup - a rather good year). He worked for two years in Sierra Leone before before returning to Sheffield to starting speciality training in Obstetrics and Gynaecology. He swapped over to General Practice in 1989.
Chris Barclay is currently a GP and medical writer. His special interest in diet and health began with a chance encounter; a patient told him how he had lost weight by cutting out carbohydrate foods. Chris has researched the subject ever since. He was principal investigator for the ISAIAH-Project, a diet trial in pre-diabetic patients. His conclusion: processed carbs, starchy foods and sugar are the problem; they are driving our Diabesity epidemic. In his book, Beating Diabetes the low-carb way, Chris presents compelling and persuasive evidence and translated it into a practical and effective plan. Chris has written regularly for medical magazines, most recently The Practitioner magazine. He is the lead writer for MaPPs, a drug information website to help health care organisations (Hospital Trusts mainly) provide reliable, easy to read information on medicines that can be printed off for patients to take away (again, translational work). He worked for many years as GP in Sheffield before moving back to Suffolk. He has worked most recently as a GP in Aldeburgh,
His new book Beating Diabetes the low-carb way collects the fruits of his research and enquiries in one place.
Dr Chris' BookBeating Diabetes The Low Carb Way - Dr Chris Barclay
https://amzn.to/2SR22Eu
When the food guidelines came in during the 80s Chris just took them on board. He didn’t think about them. Assumed that the people who were overweight, it was because they ate too much and moved too little.
Through a patient he discovered Dine Out and Lose Weight book (https://amzn.to/3jLmsKS) and found out and about the Glycemic Index.
Chris was part of a team running a clinical trial called ISIAH. It was a pilot study to see if the programme could work but they couldn’t getting funding for a proper study because there was no money to be made.
Dr Chris noticed that when the food guidelines came in the increase in obesity and Type 2 Diabetes took a lurch upwards.
He talks about two diets:
Thermogenic diets
Insulin modulating diets
Minnesota Starvation Diet - Ancel Keys
During 1940’s test subjects’ calories were significantly reduced. Subjects’ metabolism slowed, hardly moved, they were cold. Problem with this dieting you have to keep cutting the calories. The body goes into starvation mode.
Resources MentionedDine out and Lose Weight - Michel Montignac
https://amzn.to/3jLmsKS
The New High Protein Diet - Dr Charles Clark
https://amzn.to/3jKVrY9
Quotes"I should tell you about my nutritional training as a doctor and it was nil. We got no nutritional training whatsoever."
Dr Chris Barclay
"Most of the healthcare professionals I have come across are completely unaware of the whole low carb principles and how effective it can be."
Dr Chris Barclay
"No diet works for everyone, but every diet works for someone."
talks about how the real food revolution needs to be a bottom - up revolution because it doesn't seem that there will be a top down revolution. She talks about the correlations between the mistakes made with the Eat Well Plate in the 80s and the Covid laws of the 20s.
Dr Zoë focuses on real food food rather than low carb but says that the nature of real food is that it is low carb
Zoë recommends 3 thingshttps://www.zoeharcombe.com/my-books/
Stop Counting Calories & Start Losing Weight
The Obesity Epidemic: What caused it? How can we stop it?
Why Do You Overeat? When All You Want Is To Be Slim
The Harcombe Diet For Men. No Mr Fat Guy
The Harcombe Diet Recipe Book
Lunchbox Recipe Book
https://openheart.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000196.short
https://openheart.bmj.com/content/3/2/e000409.abstract
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/24/1743.short
https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/51/10/769.short
Malcolm McKendrick and care homes https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/2020/04/17/care-homes-and-covid19/
Resources Mentioned
The Great Cholesterol Con - Dr Malcolm Kendrick
https://amzn.to/3jhx301
Karol Sikora
@ProfKarolSikora
Farr’s Law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farr%27s_laws
Louise mentions the Roseto Effect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roseto_effect
21 Immunity Plan - Dr Aseem Malhotra
https://amzn.to/3iCmDXE
Belinda Fettke and church influence on plant based nutrition
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