What happens when you quit your corporate job, go all-in on entrepreneurship, and decide to run 40 miles through the Colorado mountains? Today we're diving into how major life changes and epic trail adventures go hand in hand.

Having recently ran the Grand Traverse race with Emily, we dive into the details of the race experience, as well as other exciting life/career updates since Emily was last on the podcast in January.

Jon chats with Emily about:

• ​Life Updates and New Ventures
• ​Grand Traverse Race Logistics and Challenges
• ​Pacing, Low Points, and the Final Miles
• ​Future Plans and Reflections

Stay connected:

Follow Emily:

https://www.instagram.com/emilylaurelholland/

My Membership Community:

findmyhuddle.com

This episode is supported by:

PUMA: Get your pair at your local Fleet Feet or your favorite local running shop!

Tailwind: Fueling shouldn’t be complicated. Tailwind offers all-in-one nutrition that’s easy to digest, gut-friendly, and made by athletes, for athletes. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your first order here.

Pike’s Peak: Mark your calendars for September 19-21, 2025 for coverage of the Pike’s Peak Ascent and Marathon. Join us in-person or follow along on the For The Long Run Youtube channel!

Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off half marathon or FTLR5 for $5 off the 5k/10k when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Get 20% off when you use this link!

Eternal: Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

Most endurance athletes are making the same critical fueling mistake. Let’s learn how to avoid it so you can perform the best.

Kelsey Bailey is the lead Performance Dietitian for Eternal, a company providing high performance, personalized healthcare to athletes. She spent 8 years with Special Operations and is also a consulting Performance Dietitian within the tactical space of military, fire, and police. Her areas of specialty include understanding the unique demands of today’s world on the body to keep people healthy, thriving and performing throughout their life. She also has a vested interest in endurance sport, allostatic load, traumatic brain injury, fertility, environmental exposures, and gastrointestinal health. She lives in Denver with her husband and three rambunctious little boys.

Jon chats with Kelsey about:

• Kelsey's Military Background and Roles as a Dietitian and Mother

• Transition to Working with Pro Sports (Baseball/Hockey)

• Current Focus on Women's Health and Endurance Athletics

• Nutrition Fundamentals That Shape Your Health

• Navigating Social Media Misinformation

• How Eternal’s Services Can Help Guide You on Your Health Journey

Stay connected:

Follow Kelsey:

https://www.instagram.com/bwellcolorado/

This episode is supported by:

• Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

• Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Get 20% off when you use this link!

• Eternal: Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

PUMA: Get your pair at your local Fleet Feet or your favorite local running shop!

Don’t fall into the comparison trap as a runner!

Annie Frisbie is a professional runner for Puma and Minnesota Distance Elite. She trains with her team in Minneapolis and lives with her boyfriend and two dogs. 

Jon chats with Annie about:

• Annie’s Training Mindset for Success

Stay connected:

Follow Annie on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/anniefrisb3?igsh=MWFveWh3eXV0aDZvOA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

This episode is supported by:

Eternal: Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

If you’ve ever considered running a global race series like UTMB, learn from the founders on why it’s so much more than a race.

Jon sits down with Michel and Catherine Poletti, the founders of the UTMB race series. They share their journey of starting and growing UTMB, along with essential business insights for organizing races. You won’t want to miss the philosophy that has been the foundation of their success.

Jon chats with Michel and Catherine about:

• Early Challenges and Growth of UTMB

• Expansion and Sustainability

• The Global Trail Running Boom

• Partnership with Ironman

• Maintaining Control and Expanding Globally

• Balancing Business and Community Values

Stay Connected:

Follow UTMB on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/utmbworldseries/?hl=en

UTMB’S Website:

https://utmb.world/

This episode is supported by:

• Tailwind: Fueling shouldn’t be complicated. Tailwind offers all-in-one nutrition that’s easy to digest, gut-friendly, and made by athletes, for athletes. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your first order here.

• Alpenglow: Visit https://www.alpenglowsolarandservice.com/ to learn more about solar solutions and contact Colleen!

• Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

Eternal: Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

What does it mean to TRULY be grateful for running and life?

Reid Burrows grew up in the small town of Grand Bay-Westfield, New Brunswick, Canada. His endurance background is in the sport of triathlon. Upon leaving the pursuit of triathlon and chasing the Olympic dream, he fell in love with the trails and haven’t looked back since. In February of 2022, Reid quit his full-time job to pursue his dream of becoming a full-time professional trail runner. By the end of 2022, he was picked up by Merrell with his first professional contract. Reid currently lives and trains out of Leadville, Colorado. 

Jon chats with Reid about:

• Reid's Journey to Leadville

• Inspiration from Rob Krar

• The Importance of Story-Driven Brands

• Navigating Government and Contract Pressures

• Living and Training at High Altitude

Stay connected:

Follow Reid on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/reidburrows/

This episode is supported by:

• Shokz: This episode is supported by Shokz. They stay in place and you'll be safe and sound because they don't go in your ears. ⁠Use code FTLR for $10 off your purchase. 

• Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

• Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Go to tifosioptics.com and use code “HAPPY35” at checkout to save 35% (only on 8/15/25 until midnight PT). Otherwise, you can use code “FTLR2025” to save 20% anytime.

  Alpenglow: Visit https://www.alpenglowsolarandservice.com/ to learn more about solar solutions and contact Colleen!

Let's break down what is so special about trail running and why more people need to experience it.

Vivek Gowri is a Product Manager at NVIDIA, where he leads initiatives in gaming and AI hardware. When he’s not shaping the future of tech, he’s out on the trails as a dedicated runner and advocate for diversity in the outdoor space. He brings a thoughtful perspective to the intersection of technology, endurance sports, and inclusion — bridging innovation with impact on and off the trail.

Jon chats with Vivek about:

• Trail Running and the November Project

• Building a Diverse Running Community

• Inclusivity and Accessibility in Trail Running

• Investing in Running Businesses

• The Intersection of Tech and Running

• Trail Running Innovations and Events

Stay connected:

Vivek on LinkedIn:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivekgowri/

This episode is supported by:

Eternal: Our newest partner and a company I'm also consulting for! Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

Are you laying the right foundation for your nutritional health?

Rachael (Reddy) Wade is a runner, mom of two, and founder of Rx Nutrition. She ran for the University of Alabama, earned gold medals at the Pan American Games and USA Championships, and now helps others fuel for performance and life. As a registered dietitian with a doctoral degree in Public Health, Rachael specializes in sports nutrition, women’s health, and disordered eating. Whether she’s chasing her kids, counseling clients, or training for her next competition, Rachael is all about the long run — literally and figuratively.

Jon chats with Rachael about:

• Transition to CrossFit and Hybrid Training

• Research on Mental Health and Nutrition

• Navigating Nutrition Advice

• Women's Health and Disordered Eating

• Balancing Life and Entrepreneurship

  
  

Stay connected:

Follow Rachael on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/rachaelwade_/

Rx Nutrition Website:

https://www.rxnutritioncounseling.com/

Rachael's business Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/rxnutritioncounseling/

This episode is supported by:

Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Get 20% off when you use this link!

PUMA: Get your pair at your local Fleet Feet or your favorite local running shop!

Eternal: Eternal is a performance health company for runners, endurance athletes, and anyone serious about their training. Their in-depth, two-hour physicals cover metabolic testing, mobility assessments, bloodwork, and a full movement analysis — all with expert guidance to keep you healthy and performing your best. Check them out at eternal.co and use code FTLR for 10% off your performance physical.

Are you actually prepared for your next outdoor adventure?

Viktor Makarskyy is the Cofounder and Chief Technology Officer (CTO) of GOES Health where he is responsible for the product and engineering of their outdoor health platform. He is an avid runner living based in Los Angeles, where he’s currently training for a hilly marathon later this year in Japan. He checks the GOES app daily for real-time outdoor risks to help plan his runs, and GOES has helped him personally with everything from muscle cramps to impact injuries while running on trails. 

Disclaimer: GOES is a sponsor of For The Long Run

Jon chats with Viktor about:

• Viktor's Journey from Swimming to Running

• The Essential Community and Structure that Running Provides

• Focusing on Key Drivers to Achieve Your Goals

• Pattern Recognition and Building Successful Habits

• Enhancing Outdoor Safety with GOES Health

Stay connected:

Follow Viktor on Instagram:

instagram.com/viktorwrites

Viktor on LinkedIn:

linkedin.com/in/makarskyy

Check out GOES:

goes.health

This episode is supported by:

Shokz: This episode is supported by Shokz. They stay in place and you'll be safe and sound because they don't go in your ears. ⁠Use code FTLR for $10 off your purchase. 

Tailwind: Fueling shouldn’t be complicated. Tailwind offers all-in-one nutrition that’s easy to digest, gut-friendly, and made by athletes, for athletes. Use code FTLR20 for 20% off your first order here.

Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

GOES: Need a trail companion that’s smarter than your average gear? Meet GOES—the essential outdoor app created by wilderness medicine doctors. Whether you're planning your next adventure or handling a backcountry emergency, GOES gives you expert medical guidance—even without cell service. Tap a body part, assess the risk, and get clear next steps. It’s like having a backcountry medic in your pocket—and it’s an absolute must-have in our kit. Use code 25FTLR30 for 30% off an annual GOES+ plan. 

No matter where you’re at in your running journey, there’s a path for all of us.

Scott Jurek has been named one of the greatest runners of all time, claiming victories in nearly all of ultrarunning’s elite trail and road events. More than just a champion, Scott is a true student and ambassador of the sport, known to stay at finish lines cheering until the last runner crosses. When not racing, he donates his time to many non profit organizations and is an avid volunteer in the areas of environmental conservation, fitness and health.

Jon chats with Scott about:

• ​The Philosophy of Endurance and Suffering
• ​Adapting and Overcoming Injuries
• ​The Future of Ultra Running Competitions
• ​The Pressure of Year-Round Racing
• ​The Allure of Western States
• ​The Importance of Community and Inspiration

Stay connected:

Follow Scott on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/scottjurek/

Scott’s website:

https://www.scottjurek.com/

Scott’s book:

https://www.amazon.com/North-Finding-While-Running-Appalachian/dp/0316433799

This episode is supported by:

Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

GOES: Need a trail companion that’s smarter than your average gear? Meet GOES—the essential outdoor app created by wilderness medicine doctors. Whether you're planning your next adventure or handling a backcountry emergency, GOES gives you expert medical guidance—even without cell service. Tap a body part, assess the risk, and get clear next steps. It’s like having a backcountry medic in your pocket—and it’s an absolute must-have in our kit. Use code 25FTLR30 for 30% off an annual GOES+ plan. 

Alpenglow: Visit https://www.alpenglowsolarandservice.com/ to learn more about solar solutions and contact Colleen!

Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Get 20% off when you use this link!

Emich Volkswagen : Visit https://www.emichvw.com/ before July 31, 2025 to lock in a great deal on a new EV!

Having doubts as a runner? Here’s how to reframe them.

Kristen Schindler is a mental performance consultant and endurance coach who helps athletes untangle their relationship with sport, self, and setbacks. She is currently completing her Master’s in Applied Sport and Performance Psychology at the University of Western States and working toward CMPC certification. Kristen’s work is grounded in Acceptance and Commitment Performance Coaching, Narrative Theory, and Cognitive-Behavioral principles with a belief that who we are in sport mirrors who we are in life. Drawing on over two decades of experience as both an elite trail runner and coach, she supports athletes in building resilience, values-based confidence, and sustainable performance. She works with individuals, teams, and organizations, helping them lean into discomfort, reframe failure, and write more honest, flexible stories about who they are both as athletes and humans.

Jon chats with Kristin about:

• Kristen's running journey

• mental performance and coaching

• confidence and self-talk

• defining your role in challenging times

• empowering youth athletes

Stay connected:

Follow Kristen on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/kristenaschindler/

Follow Integrated Stride Coaching on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/integratedstridecoaching/

Integrated Stride Coaching website:

https://www.integratedstridecoaching.com/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeT-s6wSPVAXaeeaDLGMl7LyTYiQnbeWlQVY1MXqbiS8-x7uqpFlpx0I1U6Qw_aem_1Q1vK1LbwnFXin6AEoaPEQ

This episode is supported by:

PUMA: Get your pair at your local Fleet Feet or your favorite local running shop!

GOES: Need a trail companion that’s smarter than your average gear? Meet GOES—the essential outdoor app created by wilderness medicine doctors. Whether you're planning your next adventure or handling a backcountry emergency, GOES gives you expert medical guidance—even without cell service. Tap a body part, assess the risk, and get clear next steps. It’s like having a backcountry medic in your pocket—and it’s an absolute must-have in our kit. Use code 25FTLR30 for 30% off an annual GOES+ plan. 

Boulderthon: Our favorite Colorado race event with a variety of distances. Use code FTLR20 for $20 off the marathon or half marathon when you register at www.boulderthon.org.

Tifosi Optics: Fantastic sunglasses for every type of run. Anti-bounce fit, shatterproof, and scratch resistant. Get 20% off when you use this link!
Visit Leadville: So you think you know Leadville? Lake County has so much more to offer year-round than just the 100 miler in the summer. If you’re thinking of getting away, highly recommend booking a trip to Leadville to get up into the mountains, eat yummy food, and play outside. Check out more of what Leadville has to offer here!