Em’s relationship with Rob Mills goes back years, if you’ve heard their previous chats, if you’re read Em’s book ‘Try Hard - Tales from the Life of a Needy Overachiever’ you’ll know how special their friendship is. Rob has just written a book too, it’s called ‘Putting on a Show - Manhood, Mates and Mental Health’. Em hasn’t read it, you’ll hear why she hasn’t read it, plus why Em’s not going to give Rob an easy ride when it comes to questions either. It’s a thought provoking, wide ranging and hugely entertaining chat and it might just be a great help to someone in your life too, so have at it and enjoy.

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