**Trigger Warning - In this episode we discuss suicide in depth.**

With her series of books looking to make emotional wellbeing a normal part of childhood, author and CEO of Sophie Says, Esther Marshall tells her story to Zoe & Georgia, as well as answers all your questions on how to navigate the rollercoaster that is grief with our children.

Following the death of her sister, Esther has been on a mission to make the mental health of kids today her life's work! Today's chat is deeply emotional, powerful and one which will hopefully help someone who needs it.

You can buy Esther's 'Sophie Says' books here and follow her on Instagram @sophiesaysofficial

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