Today on The Free Outside Podcast, I’m joined by the legendary Cam Hanes—bowhunter, ultrarunner, lifter of heavy things, and yes, friend of Joe Rogan. We dive into everything from Courtney Dauwalter’s mountain mindset to how Disneyland became a tactical hunting joke with a laser pointer (thanks, Joe).

Cam shares his thoughts on the growing influencer side of trail running, Western States carnage, public lands politics, and what he really thinks about ultrarunning's obsession with science and splits. We talk about grit, quitting, suffering, and why lifting weights is somehow less cool than ultrarunning. Plus: what hunters and trail runners can learn from each other, and why Cam still calls himself an outsider in this space.

If you're into raw takes, wild stories, and the occasional Keep Hoeing joke—this one’s for you. From the Taylor Swift of Ultrarunning, meet Cam Hanes!

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🎧 Episode Chapters

00:00 – Cam Hanes Intro

02:30 – Small Town Ties

05:00 – First Ultra Story

08:20 – Ranking Communities

11:30 – Courtney Dauwalter Talk

14:00 – Love the Process

18:00 – Cocodona Doubts

22:00 – Crew Tricks & COVID

25:30 – Public Lands Rant

30:30 – Rogan Disneyland Story

34:00 – Quitting vs Grit

41:00 – Jeff’s AT Record Goal

46:00 – Western States Opinions

53:00 – Hunting Misconceptions

55:45 – Final Thoughts & Goodbyes

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