Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Gaetz and Gabbard and R.F.K. Jr. — Oh, My!

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As nominees roll in, the reality of Donald Trump’s second administration is rapidly coming into focus. This week, Ross is joined by Opinion columnist David French to discuss the surprising picks and what they signal about the incoming president’s policy shifts this time around.

(A full transcript of this episode will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.)

Recommended in this episode:

  • “There Will Always Be a Trump. That’s Only Part of the Problem.,” by David French
  • “What JD Vance Believes,” by Ross Douthat
  • “Donald Trump Is Dead Serious About Getting Matt Gaetz to DOJ” by Marc Caputo

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