Get Creative with Pace Morby

In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Ingryd Hernandez sits down with Michael Mnatsakanian to uncover how he skyrocketed his real estate portfolio from $2 million to over $22 million—all by mastering creative finance, raising private money, and doubling down on the booming co-living model.

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Christina & Steve Ross are filling Pace in about all they've been up to and where they're headed!—These two marketing & branding pros turned real estate visionaries, are making serious waves across multiple industries. 🌊

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In this episode of the Get Creative Podcast, host Justin Tuminowski sits down with Ephrem Fuffa and Mike “Creative Mike” Molusco to reveal how two real estate investors turned a distressed property into a six-figure payday—all by answering a DM and choosing collaboration over competition.

Ephrem, a trucking-business owner turned investor, shares how he found a deal on Auction.com, while Mike explains the creative strategies, attorney relationships, and buyer connections that ultimately saved a homeowner from foreclosure and netted them each $77,000 in profit.

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If you’re a new or seasoned investor looking for proof that taking action and collaborating leads to massive results, this episode will inspire you.

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Sarah Picha secured her first SubTo deal on a $2M San Diego home with a 3.25% interest rate - all thanks to a unique door-knocking hack (and some unexpected help from the bunnies!) She also had to navigate a top 1% agent unfamiliar with SubTo and overcome major transaction roadblocks. Join Pace as they break down this incredible deal, the lessons learned, and what she’d do differently next time!

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After 13 years in a corporate medical manufacturing job, Phil Laven knew he wanted more freedom and control over his life. What started with a traditional duplex purchase in Ohio eventually led him into the world of creative finance, networking in the SubTo and Gator communities, and building a thriving private money lending business. In this episode, Phil shares how he transitioned from W-2 employee to full-time real estate investor, the skills he carried over from corporate life, and the networking strategies that opened the right doors. You’ll hear the full breakdown of his first Detroit lending deal, how he evaluates opportunities for security and return, and why staying focused and avoiding “shiny object syndrome” is key for new investors. Whether you’re brand new to real estate or looking for ways to put your capital to work, Phil’s journey will inspire you to take action and build your own investing path.

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In this episode, Pace Morby sits down with Michael Kim to unpack his epic real estate journey - from how he discovered the game to what he’s building today.

Michael shares how he started, the decision to join Owners Club, what real estate strategies he’s crushing, and what his personal Mt. Everest looks like - and trust us, it’s BIG!

This one’s for ANYONE chasing their own mountain... motivation-packed, mission-driven, and a must-listen for anyone ready to level up... Let’s go!

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At 50 years old, San Diego’s JZ Zendejas turned a $600 payday into a springboard for financial freedom and community change. In this episode, Subto leader Jordan Whittenburg sits down with JZ to uncover how he leveraged his W2 job, built deep relationships, and carved out a niche as a connector in real estate lending. From avoiding bad deals with strict vetting, to launching co-living projects in Sacramento, to flipping homes in Cleveland, JZ shares the lessons, timing, and mindset that helped him go from unsure beginner to trusted dealmaker. If you’re looking to break into real estate investing *without quitting your day job* this conversation will show you how to start smart, build trust, and create lasting impact in your community.

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What happens when a newly married restaurant worker from Peru is told he can’t qualify for a traditional home loan? For Andre Martinez, that roadblock sparked a Google search that changed his life. Within days, he discovered Pace Morby’s creative financing strategies, joined the SubTo community, and landed his first deal in just two weeks.

But Andre’s path wasn’t easy—nine months without a paycheck, getting fired multiple times, nearly quitting real estate, and surviving a nightmare first renovation where everything that could go wrong… did. Through grit, relentless action, and learning from every setback, Andre built a thriving co-living portfolio that now cashflows thousands each month and freed him from his W-2.

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Pace catches up with Monica Heredia to break down one of the most inspiring lending journeys in the Gator community!

She started with just $15K in private capital and a bold move—her first deal was an EMD loan. Fast forward 18 months, and Monica has funded over 42 deals totaling more than $2.5 MILLION! 🤯

Monica shares how her 20+ year finance background led her to Gator, where she found a tribe of action-takers, mindset shifters, and servant leaders. For her, it’s not just about money—it’s about making moves with purpose.

This episode is a must-listen if you’re curious about lending, leveling up, and leading with intention. Let’s go!

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In this episode of the Get Creative podcast, host Ingryd Hernandez sits down with real estate investors Shino Yanagawa, Justin Marcell Wallace, and Miguel Arteaga to break down how one off-market, creative flip deal in Cincinnati turned three strangers into a powerhouse partnership.

Learn how they navigated a messy divorce, used subto financing to avoid foreclosure, and walked away with their first profitable flip together — which led to 6+ more deals in just six months.

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