Ludmila N. Praslova, Ph.D., SHRM-SCP uses her extensive experience with global, cultural, demographic, and ability diversity to help create inclusive and equitable workplaces. She is a Professor of Psychology and the founding Director of Graduate Programs in Industrial-Organizational Psychology at Vanguard University of Southern California. Prior to her academic career, she built and led successful intercultural relations programs in global organizations. Her current consulting is focused on supporting organizations in creating systemic inclusion informed by an understanding of neurodiversity. Her other areas of expertise include organizational culture assessment and change, workplace justice and civility, and training and training evaluation. She is a contributor to Fast Company, Harvard Business Review and SHRM blog, the editor of the upcoming book “Evidence-Based Organizational Practices for Diversity, Inclusion, Belonging and Equity” (Cambridge Scholars), and the editor of upcoming special issue of the Consulting Psychology Journal: Practice and Research on Disability inclusion in the workplace: From “accommodation” to inclusive organizational design.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• Diversity at work includes different aspects such as race, gender but also neurodiversity.
• Autism Autism Doesn’t Hold People Back at Work. Discrimination Does. (HRB)
• The unemployment rate amongst college graduates with Autism in the US is 85 %! The discrimination might not be intentional but it is systemic!
• If you met one Autistic person, you have met one Autistic person.
• There is a misconception that autistic people are not empathic. However, autistic people might be so overwhelmed with empathy that they don’t have energy to express it or it might be too overwhelming to express.
• Autistic people might develop trauma patterns due to the way people react to them over and over again.
• Having an Autistic diagnosis can be empowering and helpful for self advocacy.
• Moral injury can happen at work and we need to address it! This might be more prevalent in neurodivergent people. Sign up for the newsletter to be updated on the results on the study!
• Even if you didn’t now things earlier, you know now and you can implement and change from this day forward! Your life experience is what it is and now you can move from this point forward!

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Organizational Psychology at Vanguard University

Read her articles: Autism does’t hold people back at work. Discrimination does. - Harvard Business Review | Neurodiver

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Dr. Sarabeth Berk is the leading expert on hybrid professional identity, and a hybrid professional herself. She was featured in Forbes, and is a TEDx speaker, author of More Than My Title, and recipient of a Colorado Inno on Fire award for her innovative work. Her hybrid title is Creative Disruptor because she works at the intersection of being an artist, researcher, educator, and designer.

Through groundbreaking research, Sarabeth developed a one-of-a-kind approach that takes personal branding and career development to a whole new level. Today, she helps professionals discover and articulate their hybrid professional identity and unique value in the workforce. As a result, her clients feel more seen, empowered and confident, and teams recognize each other as more than their job titles, valuing the critical yet different roles of experts, generalists, and hybrids in the workforce.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• What is your professional identity? This is different from your job title!
• There are three different types of worker identities: 
  • Singularity: Single professional identity
  • Multiplicity: Having many different but separate professional identities
  • Hybrid: Having intersections of different professional identities which form a new identity (as a result from reintegration via Debrowski’s positive disintegration)
• Having a hybrid career personality is common in gifted people
• It takes a bit of work to identify your primary set of identities vs. your non primary identities (secondary and tertiary identities)
• Vann Diagrams help to visualize and understand the intersectionalities of your hybrid professional identity
• You have the permission to have a hybrid professional identity!
• We go through multiple cycles of (career) identities throughout our lives: Phases of explorations followed by achievements of a certain identity.
• a/r/t (artist, researcher, teacher)
• Hybridity is a choice and it is developmental.
• Work is like a three legged stool: 
  • 1. Knowing your passion 
  • 2. Your purpose, why you do what you do 
  • 3. Your identity, who are you when you fallow your passion and purpose.
• You need to make sense of yourself first! No one is going to make sense for you. Especially in the gifted space. 
• Prefixes:
  • Intra discipline = single
  • Cross  and multi disciplinary = separate
  • Inter (between) and trans (beyond) disciplinary = hybridity

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Learn more about Sarabeth Berk and her work: morethanmytitle.com | TEDx Talk

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Learn more about Dabrowski’s theories: Episode 33

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Colin Seale was born and raised in Brooklyn, NY, where struggles in his upbringing gave birth to his passion for educational equity. Tracked early into gifted and talented programs, Colin was afforded opportunities his neighborhood peers were not. Using lessons from his experience as a math teacher, later as an attorney, and now as a keynote speaker, contributor to Forbes and author of Thinking Like a Lawyer: A Framework for Teaching Critical Thinking to All Students and Tangible Equity: A Guide for Leveraging Student Identity, Culture, and Power to Unlock Excellence In and Beyond the Classroom, Colin founded thinkLaw, to help educators leverage inquiry-based instructional strategies to close the critical thinking gap and ensure they teach and reach all students, regardless of race, zip code or what side of the poverty line they are born into. In 2021, Colin launched The BEE Project, a non-profit organization redefining who qualifies as gifted and who gets to teach gifted children by inspiring, training, and certifying Black and Latinx educators to equitably design and lead gifted programs. These programs identify and meet the unique needs of brilliant Black and Latinx children and their families who have been overlooked and underestimated by our current system. When he’s not serving as the world’s most fervent critical thinking advocate, Colin proudly serves as the world’s greatest entertainer to his two young children.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• We are all neurodivergent. But some of us are part of the outliers.
• Children can have behavioural challenges because they are not being challenged at school! 
• The order of being identified can have a big impact of how we get support! 
• The label doesn’t matter, the support matters!
• High achieving is not the same as being gifted.
• It’s not about the achievement, it’s about the performance of the achievement!
• Critical thinking skills is crucial but we treat it like a luxury good! What if we gave all kids access to critical thinking?
• Recognising that none of our learning was actually objective.
• Although brilliance is distributed equally, opportunity is not!
• Doing right is more important than being right!
• We came to normalise inequity
• There is no master plan.

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Learn more about Coline Seale and ThinkLaw here: thinklaw.us and raisingcriticalthinkers.us

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Alice Bauer was born under the zodiac sign of Virgo and she is an orderly and organized type of person by nature. She is curious, inquisitive and likes to develop herself in all areas of life. Her interests are wide-ranging, including yoga, travel, art and music, but she is particularly fond of interior design. Already in her childhood she was constantly browsing through her mother's home magazines only to rearrange and reorganize her room afterwards. In 2007 she graduated university as an interior designer.

In spring 2017, she had a very enriching, life-changing experience decluttering her life by listening to the audiobook "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" by Marie Kondo. While she had a wonderful, beautifully decorated apartment and had accumulated all sorts of possessions from the various decades of her life so far, she still always felt like she was living like a student, not like an adult.  She wanted to live the way she had always dreamed of: like a lady. She decided to give her apartment a drastic detox. Within two weeks, she took every single item she owned into her hands and examined it for its importance in her future. She has parted with half of her belongings and it still feels great! She wanted to give others this revelation of satisfaction and order in their lives and therefore she completed the KonMari Consultant Trainee Course in Los Angeles in 2017. She is now officially a Certified Master KonMari™ Consultant and is working in Switzerland and Austria.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• Tidying is an act of self love. The process of tidying can support you to figure out who you want to be and what brings you joy in your life.
• Tidying can be a form of meditation.
• Most people do not ask themselves how they want to live in their space. Create a vision to help you stay focused and motivated to get through the tidying festival.
• The KonMari Method™ is simple but not easy. It follows 6 basic principles: Commit yourself to tidying, start by creating a vision, declutter first, tidy by category not location, follow the right order and always make the decision based on the question does it “spark joy?
• Tidying helps you to get to know who you are. In order to love yourself you need to embrace all sides of you, the good and the ugly.
• Tidying can be freeing and empowering.
• If you need support, hire a tidying coach!
• Sometimes chaos is needed for a creative process. But sometimes we need to tidy in order to organize our thoughts. Understanding where the balance lies for you is the goal.
• Only keep in your home and in your life what “sparks joy”, let go of all the rest! Life is too short!

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konali.ch | Alice on instagram

The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up by Marie Kondo

Atomic Habits by James Clear | The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron | Bullet

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Ilana Grostern is a Montreal-based Self-Attunement and Somatic Coach. Her early career took her from graphic design to the launch of a sustainable business venture – a cloth diaper company that she ran for fifteen years. Her sensorial over-excitability attuned her to the needs of the body, leading her to pursue a certification as Canada’s first Whole30 coach. 

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• People who don’t know about their own giftedness lack information about themselves.
• Lack of self-understanding leads to frustration and being misunderstood. Therefore, it’s important to know who we are in order to have a better relationship with ourselves but also with others. 
• The giftedness theme is completely missing from the mainstream. 
• The giftedness angle gives a lot of clarity in the coaching realm.
• Somatic coaching is about healing the somatic-mind (Cartesian) split. No more “I think, therefore I am!”
• A lot of chronic illnesses in the gifted population due to the resonance between the body and mind.
• Ilana shows you to value neutral experiences of the body (soma) and map out what’s in the physical realm.
• The mind is a “meaning making machine”! The mind will jump to mental conclusion about the body from learned paste experiences without actually tuning in. We need to break this jumping to conclusion cycle.
• You are encouraged to flip the right with the left side! Ilana gives you the space to try new things without making you feel stupid.
• Coaching is about accepting where you are in this moment and learning a new way of doing something.
• The parents need to feel and relate to what their children go through. We start with our own healing first before we can support anyone else.
• People who are in chronic survival mode, are dis-regulated and might feel overwhelmed by this approach. 
• Learning to increase the tolerance in the uncomfortable somatic moments will allow you to learn what the body is trying to tell you.

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Ilana Grostern on instagram | facebook and LinkedIn

PDF “Gifted people and their problems” by Francis Heylighen

Overexcitabilities (OEs)

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Bayo Moses has 8+ years as a Book Coach and Developmental Editor. When he's not looking into manuscripts, you can find him on Google Meet catching fun as a personal development coach. He shares his story growing up neurodivergent in rural Northern Nigeria and how he learned about autism in adulthood. 

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• Bayo could not connect with his peers in school but was able to connect with older people.
• Realising there is nothing wrong with yourself but with your audience. 
• Sometimes there is nothing wrong with you but with the teaching method.
• A hearing issue can be a sensory processing difference.
• Being neurodivergent is not a curse, being neurodivergent is not a problem that need fixing! It is not a disease that needs curing!
• Not fitting in socially can be a pain but can also work to your advantage! It depends on how you approach it.
• Being neurodivergent can be your personal super power!
• The journey of self-awareness is not about happiness, it is about helping yourself!
• The presentation of your story needs to be simple and audience centred! The idea might be simple but the impact can be profoundly. 
• We don’t need to balance things! Things are already balanced, we simply need to find what the balance is.
• You are OK the way you are! There is nothing wrong with you. 
• Your happiness does not depend on social approval. 
• Purpose Driven Self-Awareness: The best way to help yourself is to help others!
• Social experiences the same but the personal experience is divergent for autistic people
• Let’s Talk 2e adults’ conference is the first of it’s kind you can purchase access forever, use my affiliate link

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Connect with Bayo on LinkedIn

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John Syc’s background includes his own 2eAm (twice-exceptional autism male) discovery leading to his own call to action for integration and a life commitment to the path of higher levels of consciousness in tandem with psychological wholeness. His lifelong personal journey, a psychological and social work advanced educational background, and over ten years of being a psychotherapist provide insight that he shares with his clients on their journey.

Presently, John offers 60-minute or 90-minute coaching sessions Internationally through a video-conference-based medium (e.g., Zoom). 

You can reach out to John if you are ready to begin your journey’s call to action at [email protected].

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• Neurodivergent children and adults may have a hard time fitting in and might be subject to bulling.
• Not all gifted people do well on a standardised IQ test. Some people have very spiky gifted profiles.
• Trauma can mask giftedness and it influences how you present yourself fin the world
• An neurodivergent diagnosis (such as autism) can give answers on why your life is the way it is! 
• The DSM 5 is the standard for mental health and is a pathological assessment. However, not all divergent thinking patterns are pathological.
• Gifted psychology is not a thing in the mainstream psychology (yet).
• There is autism burnout and autism fatigue. Energy management is therefore very important for people with autism spectrum disorder (ASD)
• The world is a socially constructed system. If you do not fit in it doesn’t mean it’s pathological!
• John created online service to serve 2/e autism male (2eAm).  
• Let’s Talk 2e adults’ conference is the first of it’s kind you can purchase access forever, use my affiliate link

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John’s website: johnsyc.com

Dabrowski's theory of Overexcitabilities (OEs)

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As a psychologist, trainer, assessor, writer and advocate, Jennifer Harvey Sallin is dedicated to raising awareness about adult giftedness and twice-/multi-exceptionality (2e/me) and meaningfully supporting gifted/2e/me people in their personal and social development. She has specialized in supporting gifted adults for the last decade, and in 2015, she created InterGifted to allow gifted people to socially engage in meaningful ways and to personally develop in community. Learn more about why Jen here.

Jen has developed a holistic model of giftedness that is particularly useful for gifted adults in their giftedness (re)discovery, integration and personal and professional development. She uses this model in providing qualitative assessments to gifted adults, as well as in training professional therapists, coaches and other helping professionals to better support their gifted clients.

Jen has created an initiative for reconnecting with the Earth during this time of global & ecological crisis: I Heart Earth.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• An IQ test measures something but it does not test for the full range of giftedness.
• There is no consensus to the answer of the question of what intelligence is.
• Gifted people usually are more intense than non gifted people. However, there is a distinction between complexity (giftedness) and intensity (OEs).
• Understanding your own giftedness profile and potential twice-exceptionalities helps you understand yourself better and helps supports you in your self developmental journey.
• Trauma can cause a developmental issues such as shutting down certain parts of your intelligence and playing up for example emotional intelligence in a role as a caretaker.
• Gifted people have gifted needs and if they don’t get met, life doesn’t feel fulfilled.
• For a qualitative assessment you need to be in a mental state where you are able to work on yourself in the realm of self-development.

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InterGifted.com and Jen’s model on giftedness, article on High, Exceptional & Profound Giftedness

Learn more and schedule an assessment with InterGifted

Jen’s Gifted Trauma Podcast and the previous episode with Jen at Unleash Monday

Courses for coaches and therapists at InterGifted

Overexcitabilities (OEs)

Different models on giftedness

Difference between OEs & giftedness

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Lucy Knight always knew she was different and was finally diagnosed autistic at 31. A lot in her life has changed for the better since she got diagnosed and now she advocates for myself and other autistic people. She has a blog called Autisms Alright where she shares her own story and important resources on the topic of autism.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• Without a diagnosis you might choose a career path not really suited for your needs.
• Misophonia is a condition in which individuals experience intense anger and disgust when they are confronted with sounds made by other humans.
• Without a diagnosis, you can't advocate for yourself because as an employee you are not entitled to certain accommodations.
• A diagnosis can feel like a big relief with finally being able to understand yourself and to have a vocabulary.
• Unfortunately, no one really tells you how to advocate for yourself once you do get a diagnosis. Nobody actually tells you what to do. 
• It is important that you learn how to advocate for yourself and not wait for employers know what to do.
• Lucy is able to work and thrive in an open office setting but only because her employer listened to her and incorporated adaptations.
• People with autism might do to jobs at work: The job you expect of them, but they are also masking and applying learned social skills which might not come naturally to them. 
• Being autistic, Lucy says she can’t tell easily how she feels at any given time. Which she finds really bizarre.
• Because employment is about the employee as much as the employer it is important to that it works out for both and disclosing your disability can help you advocate for yourself but also gives the employer a chance to make these accommodations.
• Lucy mentions that because she didn't have a label at school, she believes it helped her improve her social skills. Sometimes when people have a label, it's a bit like we're going to excuse their behavior rather than help them change it. We'll just excuse it, because they have a label. And that’s not really setting someone up for success at employment.
• Let’s Talk 2e adults’ conference is the first of it’s kind and completely free for the first 24 hours on November 1st, 2021 - you can purchase access forever, use my affiliate link

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Lucy’s blog: Autisms Alright: Disability is not a Dirty Word - Discrimination is! autisms-alright.co.uk

Connect with Lucy on Instagram @autisms_alright and on LinkedIn

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Christiane Wells, PhD, LSW, is the Director of Qualitative Research at the Institute for the Study of Advanced Development. She studies the lived experience of giftedness and emotional development through the lens of Dąbrowski’s theory of positive disintegration and critical psychology. She has investigated the history of Dąbrowski’s constructs and their evolution and also studies Polish in order to read his original works. Her background in qualitative methods includes using text and content analysis techniques to examine and evaluate data and bodies of literature. Chris is also a therapist in private practice with gifted and twice-exceptional adults.

TAKEAWAYS FROM THIS EPISODE:

• The DSM does not cover giftedness. You might not get a diagnosis which answers all your questions and covers all your needs.
• The word gifted is not only a word important for children’s education. Giftedness does not end after school. Gifted programs focus on the academic but not what it means to be gifted.
• The label gifted can be burdened with high expectations (can lead to gifted trauma).
• Gifted children not necessarily thrive academically.
• If you are an extreme outlier, being in a regular school can feel like torture! 
• Parents often learn through their children about their own giftedness and twice-exceptionality (2e).
• ADHD diagnosis could potentially be a sign of Overexcitabilities (OEs).
• You can be gifted outside of the stereotypes.
• Not all of Dabrowski's work has been translated yet.
• There needs to be respect for the inner experience of giftedness!
• Let’s Talk 2e adults’ conference is the first of it’s kind and completely free for the first 24 hours on November 1st, 2021 - you can purchase access forever, use my affiliate link

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Learn more from Chris by listening to her and Emma Nicholson’s podcast called Positive Disintegration

Subscribe to their Positive Disintegration Substack

Christianewells.com | Twitter | facebook group for parents of gifted and 2e kids

Chris as keynote speaker at the 15th Dabrowski Congress

Michael Piechowski | Book Living with Intensity

Reexamining Overexcitability: A Framework for Understanding Intense Experience by Michael Piechowski and Chris Wells PDF down

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