Jewel joins the Going There podcast to discuss her personal mental health journey and how she learned to accept the changing tides of wellness.

The iconic singer-songwriter shares that the cornerstone of her approach to mental health is what she calls the concept of emotional impermanence. Jewel shares a childhood story where she watched the ocean, and seeing the tide go out, knew that at some point it could come back in. She used this as a metaphor and inspiration to break free of the hopeless she felt when dealing with anxiousness and depression. Jewel talks about "buckling herself in" to try and weather the difficult times, becoming curious about what she can learn from her emotions and behaviors rather than just trying to avoid or suppress her experience.

Listen to Jewel discuss her own mental health journey above, or wherever you get your podcasts. Then make sure to like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike via your favorite podcast provider. You can also follow the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our shows.

Going There is an interview series in which clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet. The series tackles the tough questions and conversations so that we can put an end to the bias against mental illness and get the care we need.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

This month’s episodes of Going There are presented by Publicis Health, the world’s leading healthcare communications network. Publicis Health envisions a world where people are equipped and motivated to take control of their health — and they believe there is no health without mental health. To learn more about Publicis Health’s mental health initiatives, visit https://www.publicishealth.com/mental-health.

Lzzy Hale of Halestorm discusses how her fame doesn't preclude her from having mental health issues on the Going There with Dr. Mike podcast.

The Grammy Award-winning hard rocker discusses how "all the monsters feed on each other," meaning that each mental health issue can exacerbate the other. She explains the struggles she's had with depression and panic, including the guilt she often feels from struggling even though she in so many ways has a wonderful and successful life.

Ultimately, one of the key messages Hale wants to convey is that our mental health struggles can feel like such a burden to us that we assume everyone else will also see it the same way; but what's important to remember is that the right people are the ones who do not make us feel like burdens. They're the ones who welcome the opportunity to help us when we are struggling because they understand that this is part of a strong and healthy relationship.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

This month’s episodes of Going There are presented by Publicis Health, the world’s leading healthcare communications network. Publicis Health envisions a world where people are equipped and motivated to take control of their health — and they believe there is no health without mental health. To learn more about Publicis Health’s mental health initiatives, visit https://www.publicishealth.com/mental-health.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Electropop artist LAUV joins Dr. Mike Friedman on the Going There podcast to discuss how he uses the concept of “finding the light” to improve his mental health and emotional well-being.

The How I'm Feeling singer talks about how sometimes as we build our life, we forget to take the time to check in with ourselves to see how we are feeling. The more we bypass that process of checking in with ourselves, the more we become afraid of stillness. LAUV explains that what often starts as a health cycle in which we're building a fulfilling life can become a grind in which we constantly push ourselves harder and harder -- and often too hard.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

This month’s episodes of Going There are presented by Publicis Health, the world’s leading healthcare communications network. Publicis Health envisions a world where people are equipped and motivated to take control of their health — and they believe there is no health without mental health. To learn more about Publicis Health’s mental health initiatives, visit https://www.publicishealth.com/mental-health.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Musician, rapper, entrepreneur, and all around positive guy Taylor Bennett brings his "be yourself" mentality to the Going There with Dr. Mike podcast.

The Chicago native discusses how "uplifting individuality" is his guiding philosophy in his mental health and well-being journey. Bennett explains that in order to discover our best self, we must be able to focus on how we as individuals can constantly grow and develop. That allows us to figure out what we want in the world and how to attain optimal mental, physical, and social health.

The Be Yourself entrepreneur talks about how he copes with the challenges of pursuing a state of uplifting individuality. That includes exploring his feelings through his music and having his own independent label so he can pursue his authentic creative vision, eating healthy and exercising, and learning when he should stay focused and when to disconnect in order to understand how to cope with a difficult emotional situation. The key is to realize that the trial and error that we often have to go through is not a sign that we are failing, but rather a sign that we are learning and growing. 

Listen now, and like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike wherever you get your podcasts.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Mia Berrin -- leader of former Artists of the Month Pom Pom Squad -- joins the Going There podcast to discuss the bias that "mental health" means always feeling and acting happy, calm, and confident.

The world would have us believe that being "normal" involves continuous positive and optimistic thinking, and being accepted or popular socially. If we don't behave this way, our mental health and well-being can be questioned. This bias can create a stigma whereby people are unduly judged or criticized. Berrin explains that she took on these societal standards by evoking the image of a cheerleader in her music persona.

She discusses how she copes with not living up to societal standards in part by embracing her own "Galaxy Brain." The term can refer to someone who rejects conventional norms and understanding, instead looking at the bigger pictures of issues and digging until they uncover how they really feel and what they want to do. Though the phrase is often meant as an insult -- like someone is making too much of an issue -- the Pom Pom Squad singer talks about how her Galaxy Brain has helped create a pathway to mental health, not an obstacle. After all, we can't cope by invalidating our feelings; we must embrace our Galaxy Mind and accept that our feelings gave value first.

 Listen now, and like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike wherever you get your podcasts.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Season 3 of the Going There podcast continues today with Bartees Strange helping launch our focus on BIPOC Mental Health Month. The Farm to Table artist joins host Dr. Mike Friedman for a discussion about the concept of validation and why it it so critical for maintaining strong mental health and emotional well-being.

Strange explains how he experienced the damaging effects of invalidation when dealing with racism, often feeling that some people in his life would either directly or inadvertently invalidate that experience. As an example, he describes growing up in Oklahoma and witnessing violence against black people and fearing violence against himself. When others told him he'd be "fine" or "safe," it didn't reassure him -- it only made him feel more frightened.

He also discusses the feelings of invalidation that came when others told him following his love of music was not a valid choice. (Something he's clearly proven them wrong about, as he's recently announced his first-ever headlining tour, tickets for which can be found here.)

Listen to Bartees Strange discuss mental health from the perspective of a BIPOC artists in the episode now. Then make sure to like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike wherever you get your podcasts.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

The Aces close out Pride Month on the Going There podcast by joining host Dr. Mike in a discussion about building community to battle anti-LGBTQ+ bias and discrimination.

The indie pop quartet -- Cristal and Alisa Ramirez, Katie Henderson, and McKenna Petty -- talk about their own experiences coming out as gay in an industry that met them with powerful and damaging bias and discrimination.They explain how they were able to build a supportive and accepting community so that they could lead authentic, openly gay lives. As artists and advocates, they strive to build on existing progress in making the world a safer and more accepting place for members of the LGBTQ+ community -- a world where we celebrate diversity rather than attempt to suppress it..

Make sure to like, review, and subscribe to Going There with Dr. Mike wherever you get your podcasts.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

To coincide with Pride Month, June 2022’s episodes focused on LGBTQ+ mental health are specially presented by imi, created by Hopelab. imi guide is a free, research-backed, mental health tool built for and with LGBTQ+ teens looking for support and help in affirming their identity and learning practical ways to cope with stress that is helpful, relevant, inclusive, and joyful. Find it at imi.guide.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Indie pop band MUNA join the Going There podcast's Pride Month series to discuss the potentially harmful effects of rigid, binary thinking to our mental health and well-being.

Speaking with Dr. Mike Friedman, the trio of Katie Gavin, Josette Maskin, and Naomi McPherson explore how the skills of love and acceptance are vital to our mental health journey as we work on the things that we would like to change. The band talks about how being more loving and accepting towards ourselves gives us a much context for understanding and making change. Whether it's exploring and improving our general mental health or understanding our gender identity or sexuality, we need to approach these issues with patience and curiosity rather than harshness and critique, leading to a more virtuous cycle in which we can work on making necessary changes and build an affirming community around us.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

To coincide with Pride Month, June 2022’s episodes focused on LGBTQ+ mental health are specially presented by imi, created by Hopelab. imi guide is a free, research-backed, mental health tool built for and with LGBTQ+ teens looking for support and help in affirming their identity and learning practical ways to cope with stress that is helpful, relevant, inclusive, and joyful. Find it at imi.guide.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

The Going There with Dr. Mike podcast returns for a third season of shattering the stigma of mental health. We're launching during Pride Month with a specific focus on LGBTQ+ issues and discussions. To help us kick things off, singer-songwriter Bridie Monds-Watson, better known as the artist SOAK, joins Going There to talk about the challenges people face as they seek to understand and express their identity in the world.

Season 3 of Going There is brought to you by the fine folks at The Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson, who never stop working to create a future where disease is a thing of the past.

To coincide with Pride Month, June 2022’s episodes focused on LGBTQ+ mental health are specially presented by imi, created by Hopelab. imi guide is a free, research-backed, mental health tool built for and with LGBTQ+ teens looking for support and help in affirming their identity and learning practical ways to cope with stress that is helpful, relevant, inclusive, and joyful. Find it at imi.guide.

Going There is presented in partnership with Sound Mind Live. Sound Mind Live builds community and open dialogue around mental health through the power of music, partnering with a coalition of artists across genres advocating for improved mental health support and outcomes.

Singer-songwriter Grace Gaustad joins the Going There podcast to unlock that "black box" of mental health, particularly when it comes to the lasting effects of anti-LGBTQ+ bullying. Speaking with Dr. Mike, Gaustad describes how she was bullied because of her sexuality, and how that triggered her becoming severely depressed. 

The BLKBX: wht r u hding? musician explains how she started the non-profit organization the BLKBX Project in conjunction with her new album release. This organization focuses on teen mental illness, and addresses the fact that most people face stressful and traumatic issues such as bullying and mental illness in isolation. It's not uncommon to struggle in secret, in part because the stigma of mental illness causes us to assume – unfortunately, often rightly so – that we will be we will be harmed emotionally, socially, financially, even physically if we're too vocal about our issues. 

Similarly, people don't often check in on those facing mental challenges until there's a catastrophic event or it impacts our daily functioning. Gaustad explains how, like when an airplane crashes, we then investigate the black box that explains what went wrong; it's only then that we begin to try to figure out what’s going on with ourselves or others.

Listen to the latest episode of Going There with Dr. Mike now, and make sure you like and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcasts. You can also follow along with the Consequence Podcast Network for updates on all our series. 

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Going There is an interview series presented by Consequence and Sound Mind Live. Clinical psychologist and life coach Dr. Mike Friedman talks with musicians about the crossroads where music and mental health meet. Musicians who have stepped up to share their wonderful work with us are now sharing the intimate details of their journey in living with mental illness. Dr. Mike asks the tough questions and has the difficult conversations, so that we can shine a light on the difficult topic of mental illness so we can all come out of the darkness, put an end to the stigma of mental illness, and get the care we need.