If the tension between holding on and letting go feels all too familiar, you’re not alone. This episode is rich with encouragement and real talk about living surrendered, even while navigating hopes and disappointments—rooted in the steady goodness of God. Today Heather welcomes back her friend, author, and fellow pastor’s wife, Rebecca George, for an honest, relatable conversation about the ever-challenging tension between surrender and control.

Episode Highlights:

• Surrender vs. Control: What’s Really at Stake?
  Heather and Rebecca dive headfirst into the push and pull many women feel between wanting to surrender to God and desperately trying to control outcomes—especially around good and godly desires, like marriage, family, health, or career.

  • Heather observes how easy it is for our goals and expectations—even the good ones—to become idols, subtly pulling our hearts away from God.

  • Rebecca shares her personal journey of longing for marriage later than most of her peers, describing the emotional wrestle of watching others get what she deeply wanted and how that desire, while good, could easily take God’s place on the “throne of the heart.”

• Modern Culture Makes Surrender Even Harder
  They reflect on how instant-gratification culture (think Amazon Prime, DoorDash, and Uber) actually conditions us to expect control, which makes real spiritual surrender even harder. Heather likens our current approach to life as having an “Amazon Prime mentality”—believing we can make anything happen if we try hard enough.

• Redefining Surrender
  Rebecca explains that surrender isn’t simply giving up or becoming passive (“I’ll just sit at home and wait for God to drop someone on my windshield!”)—but is more about daily, sometimes moment-by-moment, recognizing where our desires have edged into idolatry, and inviting God to search our hearts (Psalm 139:23-24).

  • True surrender may require us to “lay it down at Jesus’ feet” repeatedly—sometimes a dozen times in a single day.

• Living in the Tension (Not the Black-and-White)
  The conversation unpacks the problematic “black and white thinking” that makes us feel like we have to choose between frantic striving and total resignation. Instead, Heather and Rebecca discuss how the Bible calls us to live under God’s grace, trusting His goodness even in the waiting and uncertainty.

  • Rebecca emphasizes God’s sovereignty and immutability—He is good and in control, regardless of whether we get what we want.

  • Surrender is deeply tied to humility—admitting, “You are God and I am not,” and being okay with that.

• Practical Encouragement
  Rebecca urges listeners not to be discouraged if surrender is a daily (or hourly!) process. The “muscle memory” of waiting and trusting needs to be built, especially in a culture that minimizes waiting or struggle. Heather adds that inviting God to lovingly “press on sore spots” may hurt, but always leads to healing.

• About Rebecca’s New Book
  Rebecca introduces her new book, You’re Not Too Late: Trusting God’s Timing in a Hurry-Up World**, designed for women at any stage who feel “the ache of the almost.” Every chapter includes prompts, prayers, and real-life case studies, plus a free companion video series for small groups or personal study.

Connect with Rebecca:

• Instagram: @rebeccageorgeauthor

• Podcast: Radical Radiance

• Book: You're Not Too Late (available wherever books are sold) **Amazon affiliate link.

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