In this podcast episode, Julia Jones speaks with Devry Boughner Vorwerk, a global leader in sustainability about creating sustainable and secure global food systems by combining innovation with tradition. 

They discuss the importance of collaborative solutions in agriculture, empowering small and mid-sized businesses, and the critical role of optimism and leadership in addressing challenges such as climate change and food security. 

The episode also covers the 'humanverse' concept, which emphasises valuing people and the environment in business and policy, and the importance of embracing disagreement with love to foster progress.