Join Kevin, Joe, and Shae in a conversation with Gregg Lawson. Even though he’s only been running ultras for a few years, this man has been everywhere! Not only does he run a lot of races, but he has crewed, paced, and volunteered at so many of the big races! He and Joe talk about volunteering at Western States this year, his recent experience crewing at Badwater 135, and tries to talk us out of running at Javelina in favor of crewing.